The Russians have far more justification to be Ukraine than we did in either Iraq war.
Ukraine promised to be politically neutral and illegally installed a government hostile to Moscow that threatened Russia's naval base in Crimea and the ethnic Russian population in Ukraine.
We promised the Russians no eastward expansion of NATO and expanded to their borders.
But you're so consumed by ethnic hatred, you think the West should be able to sh$t on Russia and that the Russians should take it.
The present government of Ukraine, along with its predecessor, was elected by the Ukrainian people; it was not installed by outside forces
Desiring Ukrainian independence is not hatred of Russia. What I wish is that Russia would respect that independence and then we can have peaceful relations. This would also be best for Russia. Is the cost of this war really worth it to Russia? Peace would be restored if Russia were to give up its imperialist ambitions and accept Ukrainian as an independent country.
We didn’t keep any territory.
We were VERY justified in going into Iraq.
We did make the mistake of letting the Russians have time to clear out of there.
The Russians had NO justification to go into Ukraine.
None whatsoever.
It isn’t any of Russia’s business what goes on in Ukraine no matter what was, or was not promised (not that Russia has ever abided by its treaties- it hasn’t.)...Ukraine is a sovereign country.
Russia is a sovereign country. Neither one should have any say on the internal affairs of the other. If Ukraine doesn’t take a neutral position so what?
Russia’s elections are no more legal than Ukraine’s. That is the business of their citizens respectively. If you aren’t a Ukrainian citizen then Ukraine’s elections aren’t Russia’s problem to fix. If you aren’t a Russian then Russia’s elections aren’t Ukraine’s to fix.
Ukraine didn’t threaten Russia’s base in Crimea. That is Ukraine’s base and Russia was renting it. As it happens Russia prefers to squat.
It isn’t any of Russia’s business what the ethnicity of Ukraine’s citizens are. If Russia was really worried about the safety of ethnic Russians there- and if those ethnic Russians there were in fear of their lives, there is something called asylum which Russia could have offered to those people, who were free to leave.
The truth is the Russians don’t give a damn about ethnic Russians or any other human rights issues or they would not be importing North Korean conscripts to fighting for theis territorial gain. Russia has NEVER been a beacon of hope for human rights anywhere. The only thing the Russian government is interested in is the real estate and especially the offshore resources.
“The Russians have far more justification to be Ukraine than we did in either Iraq war.”
You’re wrong about the first Gulf War. That was the right thing to do. Second Gulf War you’re right.