They've been launching Kalibr missiles into Ukraine from the Black Sea from at least 2024 now.
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Posted on 04/24/2025 10:50:51 AM PDT by RandFan
You assume that Putin’s successor will be another Gorbachev.
Unlikely. But there's that possibility...
Run it though an AI of your choosing or do a google or bing search of your choosing. You will get the same AI results I posted.
In 2010 Crimea did not mind being a peaceful part of Ukraine. Dittos for the ethnic Russians there. Prove me wrong.
They've been launching Kalibr missiles into Ukraine from the Black Sea from at least 2024 now.
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“But for Zelensky to renounce Crimea as an indivisible part of Ukraine would be unconscionable”
It’s already gone. Zelensky needs to be gone before peace can be achieved. He’s gotten a generation of young men killed by doing the bidding of misguided Americans and Europeans drunk on deep-state ganga weed. He hasn’t had the full defeat experience yet which is the last thing the American and European traitors in the deep state will ever do for him - but for how much longer?
It’s over. Crimea is Russia, so is Eastern Ukraine. Like it or not, it’s the way it is.
If it was all fixed there would be a lot of commotion going on there and shoved in our face ever day.
Those ships are deploying to the Black Sea from naval bases in Russia proper. We are talking about the naval bases in Crimea.
Oh, okay. That does make sense with all the US missiles attempting to come in there.
He WILL and he already has! Crimea river! Trump said today that Obama gave Crimea to Russia 11 years ago.
Good luck getting it back.
He WILL and he already has! Crimea river! Trump said today that Obama gave Crimea to Russia 11 years ago.
Good luck getting it back.
That ship sailed 2 years ago. Duh.
No Sh*t Sherlock.
I guess you better fix all the news articles and reports then, because everything I've seen says 80%. Wikipedia actually says 82% Russian going by language and 2% Ukrainian, with 20% saying they were Ukrainian by ethnicity.
Ukrainians are just "frontier Russians" anyway, despite the mythology some of them have adopted.
Is Crimea part of Ukraine? Yes and No. Is it of vital military importance to Russia's Navy.....Absolutely. Do lots and lots of “Russians” live in Crimea? Yes.
In the US, those that live, get rich in New York, retire in Florida. The same can be said that those that live and get rich in Russia move to the warmer Crimea when they retire.
Now let's look at history. https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/why-did-russia-give-away-crimea-sixty-years-ago
“....Crimea was part of Russia from 1783, when the Tsarist Empire annexed it a decade after defeating Ottoman forces in the Battle of Kozludzha, until 1954, when the Soviet government transferred Crimea from the Russian Soviet Federation of Socialist Republics (RSFSR) to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkrSSR). The transfer was announced in the Soviet press in late February 1954.....”
Did Russia illegally and by force take Crimea? Absolutely...and the world stood by and did absolutely nothing, except a few harsh speeches.
Is Ukraine going to ever forgive Russia for taking Crimea? Probably not. Is Ukraine ever going to forgive Russia for invading and trying to take over all of their country. No they will never forget that and the war crimes committed by Russia.
What is the closest similar situation? In my view the truce between North and South Korea. I think that is the most likely way to stop the killing now happening in Ukraine.
By that twisted logic, since virtually all Irishmen speak English, they are actually only "frontier Englishmen."
I specifically referenced my own personal experience in the year 2001 - which simultaneously comported well with the statistics available at the time.
I have no doubt that subsequent surveys and polls undertaken during the Russian occupation now point in a more Moscow-favorable direction. (Living under the cudgel of a foreign military force tends to color one's survey responses, after all.)
In the summer of 2001, I was a guest at a coastal military spa under Russian jurisdiction - and yet, with the exception of the higher-ranking sanatorium personnel, most everyone first addressed me in Ukrainian.
I will grant you that an informal poll I conducted indicated that, given a choice between full independence, belonging wholly to Ukraine, or belonging wholly to Russia, a slight majority expressed a preference for independence. (I'm not necessarily claiming that complete independence would have been an economically or geo-politically viable alternative - I'm just reporting what I was told.)
Regards,
Yes, being forcibly annexed and occupied by a foreign military will tend to influence your poll results.
It was no different after the Nazis invaded Austria - the "fair" plebiscite conducted afterwards retroactively "confirmed" that the Austrian people had actually wanted to join Nazi Germany all along!
Gee, I wonder why?
Regards,
aren’t you part of our resident nudge brigade?
I have no food for you.
don’t feed the nudgers (despite them making FR basically useless)
Putin has never lost a referendum held under his auspices.
And neither did Hitler.
Regards,
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