Posted on 04/24/2025 9:28:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Anyone denying Putin has an agenda intentionally has their head stuck in their ass.
Everything we've done in Ukraine is so corrupt politicians like Biden, NGO oligarchs like George Soros and the defense industry can enrich themselves.
Anyone defending that agenda is as much the enemy as any Democrat.
Denying Ukraine the right to a military is akin to having a boxing match in which one person is allowed to punch, but the other is not.
It won’t end well for the one not allowed to punch. It would be foolish, perhaps suicidal, to agree to those rules.
He's not so bright then. If that were true, he's had Crimea for a decade. He should have left things alone. Now he's got a fraction of the Black Sea fleet, unless you count whats in Davy Jones locker.
Nope, nice try though. Nobody was bothering with Crimea until Putin decided he needed more.
What Moskva flagship doink?
A few bureaucrats with zero military power opening their mouths doesn't give a country the right to invade a neighbor who didn't even make that statement. Not to mention that those statements weren't made until after Russia proved itself to be a military aggressor by invading that neighbor.
And the Monroe doctrine has been dead for a very long time.
And, Putin had more of more high ground in protecting the ethnic Russian population in Donetsk and Lugansk than we ever did in either Iraq war.
NATO funding, training and building a 600,000 man army after the illegal coup in 2014 installed a puppet government hostile to Russia was most certainly a national security threat to the Russians.
If China or Russia had done something similar in Mexico, we would have, justifiably, invaded.
That is absolutely load of horse manure.
We promised the Russians no eastward expansion of NATO and expanded to their border.
Ukraine promised to be neutral toward Russia in its Constitution in 1996 and then allowed us, the CIA and NATO to foment an illegal coup and install a government hostile to both Moscow and the ethnic and cultural Russian population in the annexed areas.
We and NATO proceeded to fund, arm and train a 600,000 man Ukrainian army on Russia's border.
If Russia or China had done anything like that in Mexico, WE, JUSTIFIABLY, WOULD HAVE INVADED.
No I remember that. A dispute over payments for water.
In 1954, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
After Russia took Crimea back in 2014, was Ukraine supposed to provide for Crimea for free?
We made no such promise. Even Gorbachev confirmed, directly, that question wasn’t even brought up.
James Baker was confined to the topic of German reunification while the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact existed.
The proposal was, if Eastern Germany reunified with West Germany, NATO wouldn’t move into east Germany.
That’s all.
And, Gorbachev and Scheherazade both decided not to include that in the final agreement.
Within two years the entire question was rendered moot by the Belovezha Accords. Which granted every nation formerly in the Warsaw Pact or USSR the freedom to choose EEC over CIS, or NATO over CSTO. Poland and the Baltics chose EU and NATO, Belarus didn’t, and Ukraine sat on the fence entirely until Putin and Medvedev tried using blackmail and political assassination to bully Ukraine into their camp.
Stop repeating Russian revisionist fiction.
You're lying:
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
The documents reinforce former CIA Director Robert Gates’s criticism of “pressing ahead with expansion of NATO eastward [in the 1990s], when Gorbachev and others were led to believe that wouldn’t happen.”[1] The key phrase, buttressed by the documents, is “led to believe.”
More evidence of what a liar and your fellow Zeeptards are.
The water was intentionally cutoff by the Ukrainian government as payback because the residents voted to join the Russian Federation.
https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/597910-how-a-ukrainian-dam-played-a-key-role-in-tensions-with/
Shortly after Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014, Ukraine built a concrete dam cutting off 85 percent of the peninsula’s water supply. So one of Moscow’s first strategic moves after invading the country was to blow it up.
Ukraine had constructed the dam on the North Crimean Canal, a Soviet-era conduit that conveyed water from the Dnieper River to both Crimea and the Kherson region of Ukraine.
Ukraine ping
[If the U.S. can have a Monroe Doctrine; then surely Russia can have a Putin Doctrine.]
But much of this skirts the central issue. The Monroe Doctrine was not some statement of universal principle. It was an assertion of national interest, the elevation of American interest over anyone else’s. Even if the Monroe Doctrine weren’t dead, why would we recognize anyone else’s claim to a similar sphere? We certainly did not recognize Germany or Japan’s respective Monroe Doctrines (aka WW2), which individually covered areas smaller than Russia today.
Also de-Nazify Russia
What you have represented are not promises and they are not signed accords or treaties, you clown. It is Putin who has violated signed agreements with Ukraine time and time again.
Don’t play stupid. Kind of ignores who instigated the whole thing.
The one continuing the war is Russia. If they go home the war ends. It is really that simple.
Although unfortunate, that is probably the best deal that can be achieved. And the sadness is that Russia could have annexed Donetsk and Luhansk without firing a shot and with a response no greater than a strongly worded letter, but Putin had to be greedy and try to get more.
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