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JD Vance tells Russia and Ukraine: Do a deal or the US 'will walk away' - as chaos hits peace talks in London
Daily Mail ^ | 4/23/2025 | TARYN PEDLER and JAMES TAPSFIELD

Posted on 04/23/2025 4:32:55 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Allegra

Roflol! Juss dam!


41 posted on 04/23/2025 7:36:25 AM PDT by crz
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To: nathanbedford

Fine by me.

Abandon Ukraine let Russia have it.


42 posted on 04/23/2025 7:37:01 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Allegra

Showed that to my wife. She spewed he coffee.

Lol! Thats there’s an all time great one.


43 posted on 04/23/2025 7:43:14 AM PDT by crz
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To: Bayard
Abandon Ukraine let Russia have it.

Apart from questions of morality and decency, unfortunately, the stakes are greater than just Ukraine.


44 posted on 04/23/2025 7:50:08 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: Allegra

Who ya having for dinner?

Lol!


45 posted on 04/23/2025 7:50:50 AM PDT by crz
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To: nathanbedford
-- "...to invoke not merely a unique historic figure but a living biblical parable."

The conversion on that road to Damacus invokes what for you? Your text points to Bedford 'converted' from "once demonic warrior" to an "I am not the man you... knew."

"The Damascene" is not among the parables, per se, so it is unclear how this relates to your view of the Ukraine-Russia war, in the specific sense of these United States' responsibility to 1) now refrain from continuing, 2) continuing to support in a general manner, 3) or possibly allying and fighting alongside. Secretary of State Rubio has stated this has been a proxy war between the US and Russia.

" 'It's been very clear from the beginning that (U.S. President Donald Trump) views this as a protracted, stalemated conflict,' Rubio told Fox News in an interview on Wednesday."

Kremlin says Rubio's view of Ukraine conflict as a US-Russia proxy war matches that of Putin Reuters, 6 March 2025

I watched the cable feed of both Alice Weidel and Sahra Wagenknecht speak at the Bundestag sometime back, and both -- "far-right" and "left" -- said quite the same things in different words. Neither they nor their voters will be represented in the new Merz-led coalition. It certainly seems that some are in need of a "Damascene" experience, something which seems not linked to Realpolitick of the moment. "My kingdom is not of this world; If it were, my servants would fight..." resonates.
46 posted on 04/23/2025 7:59:12 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: crz

Heh! I’ll make sure to post that from time to time.

I can’t remember where I found it, but it is a good one. :D


47 posted on 04/23/2025 7:59:51 AM PDT by Allegra (Strategic initiatives )
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To: Allegra

Its not just a good one its hilarious.

Havent seen that one before. That’s a good one for mumsy..when she shows up again.

I suppose. Gotta go over to my other haunt and see what the boys are discussing today.


48 posted on 04/23/2025 8:07:34 AM PDT by crz
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To: McGruff

Putin met President Trump’s ceasefire deadline. Unfortunately, it was only for 30 hours instead of 30 days. Mongols gonna Mong.


49 posted on 04/23/2025 8:17:09 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Petrosius
Destroying the trust and goodwill that the US has built up since WWII

You say "built".

I say "bought".

Picking up the check for military defense that should have been paid for by the Euroweenies in the first place is not "building" trust.

It is building an unhealthy international relationship that was bound to end when a realist, a nationalist, and guy with common sense came to power.

If it weren't for the draft lottery, I'd be a Canadian citizen today because I knew Uncle Sam had no business messing around in Vietnam.

That said I'd have GLADLY volunteered to be protecting are Southern border with a machine gun pointed and ready to fire at any illegal invader.

The neocon problem is they weren't willing to defend our southern border because there were no sexy military hardware needed to defend it, just rebar and concrete and manpower.

Military industrial complex gotta eat, and the pickins' are might slim defending our borders.

The real GRIFT is always to be found half way around the world messing around in wars which roots go back decades.

50 posted on 04/23/2025 8:20:49 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: marcusmaximus
--- "Putin met President Trump’s Stubb's ceasefire deadline. "

"White House officials have acknowledged that President Donald Trump will not achieve his goal of securing a ceasefire in Ukraine by Easter, 20 April, The Telegraph reported on 2 April."

Trump administration admits Ukraine ceasefire goal will not be met by Easter EuroMaidan Press, 3 April 2025

Finnish President Stubbs. Even the Ukrainian Maidan Press knew that. in early April.
51 posted on 04/23/2025 8:22:07 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Bayard
Abandon Ukraine let Russia have it.

You are OK with the Russians dominating the Ukrainians and destroying their national identity? Ukraine is not asking for our direct involvement, just for limited aide, intelligence support, and keeping pressure on Russia through economic sanctions. Despite all the caterwauling by some, this is well within our capability and at minimum cost.

52 posted on 04/23/2025 8:35:29 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
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53 posted on 04/23/2025 8:44:02 AM PDT by ANKE69 ( 🇺🇲 Let's MAGA 🇺🇲)
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To: Petrosius

Absolutely. Minimum cost is a matter of interpretation. Its already too high.

The war itself should have ended far sooner.

I don’t care about Ukraine.


54 posted on 04/23/2025 8:51:43 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: marcusmaximus

Maybe JD should make a stop in the USA to knock some heads in Congress. Why hasn’t this been passed—with further deportation measures? (And only $17.5B per year to deport the 10s of millions?)

https://www.aila.org/library/impact-of-the-2025-congressional-budget-process-on-immigration


55 posted on 04/23/2025 8:51:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nathanbedford

Its perfectly moral to not give a fig about Ukraine. There is no interest in helping it survive.


56 posted on 04/23/2025 8:53:22 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Allegra
😂👍
That's a keeper!
Perfect response to the usual suspects posting paragraphs of nonsense about Nazis, NWO, and general B.S.
Thanks for the laugh.
Trump / Vance 🇺🇸
57 posted on 04/23/2025 9:10:51 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! Re )
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To: marcusmaximus

FD Vance will be an excellent president in 2028!
Getting Putin to agree to abandon his annexed but not captured territory is a major breakthrough.
This is the only reasonable solution to freeze the lines where they are to become the new borders....This proxy war on Russia needs to end.This is the best that Z could ever get.Crimea has been part of Russia since 1783 , not an issue. If Z won’t work with this it will be time to turn off the money and wash our hands of this globo homo grifter.


58 posted on 04/23/2025 9:16:56 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: marcusmaximus

Zelensky has proven he won’t agree to anything reasonable or sign a rare earths deal so it is PAST time to walk away and end ALL involvement in this war and with Ukraine.


59 posted on 04/23/2025 9:25:48 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Bayard
I don’t care about Ukraine.

Luckily not everyone is as selfish as you. We take our Lord's command to love our brothers seriously.

60 posted on 04/23/2025 9:41:26 AM PDT by Petrosius
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