Posted on 04/15/2025 8:05:16 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff said Monday that he “finally” got an answer to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demands for peace during their meeting last week in Moscow.
Witkoff, who’s taken a leading role in Russia-Ukraine ceasefire talks, called his five-hour meeting with Putin “compelling” and said he sees a deal “emerging,” speaking in an interview on Fox News Channel’s “Hannity” on Monday night.
“It was a compelling meeting,” Witkoff said. “And toward the end, we actually came up with — I’m going to say ‘finally,’ but I don’t mean it in the way that we were waiting, I mean it in the way that it took a while for us to get to this place — what Putin’s request is to get, to have a permanent peace here.”
“So, beyond a ceasefire,” he added. “We got an answer to that.”
Witkoff did not detail Putin’s demands for a permanent truce but said the peace deal “is about these so-called five territories,” adding that “there’s so much more to it.”
“There’s security protocols. There’s no NATO, NATO, Article 5,” the envoy continued. “I mean, it’s just a lot of detail attached to it. It’s a complicated situation from, you know — rooted in some real problematic things happening between the two countries.”
“And I think we might be on the verge of something that would be very, very important for the world at large,” he said.
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Good. Let Russia keep Crimea and the Donbas. Ukraine keeps Kherson and Zaporizhya. No Ukraine in NATO. Ever. Hold elections in Ukraine.
Above all, stop the killing and dying. No more death.
Putin started a war of aggression and there will be no peace until he is gone from the world stage. There are no short cuts to peace. That’s the obvious truth.
It’s not that simple. Look up how much NATO’s borders pushed towards Russia after US leaders said not one inch.
No blow by blows, please. Just the deal.
There is zero chance of that happening given those two oblasts connect Crimea to mainland Russia.
It’s amazing how people just can’t face reality.
Five territories. It’s unlikely Crimea is one of them. That has been Russian since 2014.
So that leaves what? The Donbas is 3? Then the south including Kherson and the fifth? Odessa?
Given various delays and the rate of advance, Kharkiv might be included. That’s 1.3M people.
Quotes from Trump are quite critical of Zelensky the last few days, after he had a chance to talk to Witkoff.
Perhaps the MOST IMPORTANT part of the entire affair is the upcoming attempt to get a budget passed via Reconciliation. If that involves rejecting the Parliamentarian’s position, then it will be called an eradication of Filibuster. That microsecond, GOP votes will leave the bill. Like Sinema and Manchin, there will be GOP senators who will not gut the Filibuster.
What this means overall is that Ukraine is not going to be available to persuade votes in either direction, and make no mistake here, that Reconciliation effort is about 80X more important than Ukraine.
“Putin started a war of aggression and there will be no peace until he is gone from the world stage. There are no short cuts to peace. That’s the obvious truth.”
Putin has gotten stung badly by what is his war.
His successor won’t carry that memory, only of Russian military improvement.
Да здравствует... Long live....
[I’m trying to learn the Russian in “Boris Godunov”]
Ukraine isn’t going to hand over territory by pen.
The only ‘ink’ that will get Ukrainian territory is Russian blood.
Putin's likely successors are even bolder.
They will already have it. The ink already flowed.
But you’re right. No agreement is going to accept it, unless a pro Russian government is installed in Kiev. In which case there will be agreement, and peace.
From day 1 this has been true. The only long term peace configuration there requires a pro-Russian government. It was in place for decades and there was no war, until it was coup’ed.
Now, there is another obstacle. Democracy. With the most pro Russian oblasts now having voted to join Russia, any future elections for Kiev’s government will have all the pro Russian votes departed.
So the best long term solution is a pro Russian Ukraine military government that promises elections at some unspecified time in the future . . . that never seems to happen.
Half of each are controlled by either Ukraine or Russia. Split down the middle then.
Meanwhile - in the real world - because of evil and vapid stupidity, NATO and the globaloids just got their asses handed to them, despite spending at least 5 times Russia's annual military budget.American idiots and Euro-clowns played a stupid game, so Russia gave them their stupid prize by moving their borders just a little to the left. Very easy to defend if you look at a map.
Despite your single paragraph idiot-blurbs, Russia doesn't need to talk to anyone, give up any real estate, or really do anything at all. A "ceasefire" would be foolish. You certainly won't see their leader "gone from the world stage," lol.
Neocon clowns have earned nothing but a legacy of failure. Here's just one more in a long list
It’s not that simple. Look up how much NATO’s borders pushed towards after US leaders said not one inch.
NATO is a defensive alliance. Nation’s formally occupied by Russia and the Soviet Union naturally joined because Russia has a history of invading its neighbors. It’s what Russia does. Invading Ukraine just proves that point.
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Why should Russia trust that Nato is a defensive alliance? Because we say so? Back in the 80’s would we accept Cuba joining the Warsaw Pact based on the idea that it’s strictly a defensive alliance? No matter what you think of Putin and Russia, you can’t expect them to trust us simply because we claim the higher moral ground.
Detente with Russia is a strategically important interest for the US.
“NATO is a defensive alliance. “
NATO is an Empire masquerading as a defensive alliance. - VDH
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