DOGE team helps move position of IRS web page 'log in' button in a little over an hour, instead of the expected 103 days [they cut red tape]

X.com ^ | 04/09/2025 | DOGE

[ransomnote]

Department of Government Efficiency
@DOGE
On the http://IRS.gov website, the "log in" button was not in the top right on the navbar like it is on most websites. It was weirdly placed in the middle of the page below the fold.

An IRS engineer explained that the *soonest* this change could get deployed is July 21st... 103 days from now.

This engineer worked with the DOGE team to delete the red tape and accomplished the task in 71 minutes. See before/after pictures below.

There are great people at the IRS, who are simply being strangled by bureaucracy.

 

Apr 9, 2025

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[pollywog]

What kind of “red tape” causes it to take 4 months to move the position of a log in button on a web site?

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In a word:

STUPIDITY!!!!

[numberonepal]

Being schooled on “The Scotty Principle” by Mr. Scott himself is awesome.

The Scotty Principle in a nutshell states:
Under promise. Over deliver.

[cuz1961]

you illustrate an important fact

the main motivation of progs commies dems rinos and domestic enemies

( but i repeat myself /-)

is GREED.

[Pikachu_Dad]

Reviews necessary to prevent malicious changes by bad actors.

Inertia in a well working system can be very good to prevent system instability.

Even something as mundane as this change can result in system crashes if someone makes a stupid error during its implementation.

I have no problem with the governments delay in this case.

The issue here would be the forces that caused the odd placement in the displacement in the first place.

[numberonepal]

RE: STUPIDITY

Not necessarily. See post 18:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4310167/posts?page=18#18

[Pikachu_Dad]

It is also a term used for computers !

Don’t think it applies in this case.

It means the needed information has to be scrolled to be seen.

This is more a case of header versus main body.

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“ In web design, the term “below the fold” refers to the content located below the bottom of a browser window, or approximately 600 pixels from the top of the page. This content is not immediately visible to users and requires them to scroll down to access it. The concept was adapted from print journalism, where information deemed less important was traditionally placed below the fold in newspapers.”

[Pikachu_Dad]

It is also a term used for computers !

Don’t think it applies in this case.

It means the needed information has to be scrolled to be seen.

This is more a case of header versus main body.

——-

“ In web design, the term “below the fold” refers to the content located below the bottom of a browser window, or approximately 600 pixels from the top of the page. This content is not immediately visible to users and requires them to scroll down to access it. The concept was adapted from print journalism, where information deemed less important was traditionally placed below the fold in newspapers.”

[Pikachu_Dad]

It is also a term used for computers !

Don’t think it applies in this case.

It means the needed information has to be scrolled to be seen.

This is more a case of header versus main body.

——-

“ In web design, the term “below the fold” refers to the content located below the bottom of a browser window, or approximately 600 pixels from the top of the page. This content is not immediately visible to users and requires them to scroll down to access it. The concept was adapted from print journalism, where information deemed less important was traditionally placed below the fold in newspapers.”

[numberonepal]

It was just crappy UI design. Like I said in post 18, this effort may have already been in the work backlog with a lot of other stuff prioritized above it and these changes were escalated to the top. Software developers often get their time re-prioritized due to some thing or another. Usually something that is a show stopper, like my customers can’t pay us, gets the highest priority and are usually fixed in a remarkably timely manner.

[rlmorel]

Absolutely. It is why socialism is such a fraud. They all think they will be in the “Inner Party” and be privy to to the spoils taken from others.

They are so stupid they just don’t realize not everyone can be an “inner party” member.

[numberonepal]

Dang you for posting this RN. Now I gotta explain the SDLC to the entirety of FR so they understand how this stuff works. This was an impressive turnaround, but it was no miracle. I’ve turned show stoppers that included both back end and front end changes at the two largest telecoms companies in America in under an hour at 3AM on many occasions. It just requires the proper escalation. Now, if I may, I have a bunch of user stories to write.

[sit-rep]

wow... someone flag John to see this!! Maybe this can be a motivation to set the focus on the “Reply Text” field!! after 25 years, I still find myself typing an entire paragraph before realizing I’m not typing at all but scrolled down to the bottom of the page!! AAAAAAARGH!!

Someone start a petition to remedy this!!

[fini]

I am going to get some of my facts wrong, but here is my memory.

When I worked at the General Services Administration, we used "Survey Monkey." It was easy to gather information and easy to change questions. But it requires you to do a proper analysis and modify questions as you realize you are looking for the wrong things. Just when we started getting good results, e.g. asking the right questions, we were told that we could not use it because of security concerns, though they never told what the security concerns were. I am not saying that there weren't security concerns (our customers were the logisticians throughout the Federal govt so finding out who they were, e.g. the log guy who worked on maintaining the B1 bomber, could conceivably created some real problems), but it would have been nice to hear them. OBTW, only people using a govt computer could log into our "Survey Monkey" so that was used to mitigate outside disruption.

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled DOGE team helps move position of IRS web page 'log in' button in a little over an hour, instead of the expected 103 days [they cut red tape], Red Badger wrote:

below the fold?

It’s printed on a newspaper?.........Man they are behind the Times!.......and the Post.........and the Chronicle.........

I C WUT U DID THERE! :D

[ridesthemiles]

I have had more than one “ backlog of work’ in my life-—

BUT NOT everything gets done in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER of surfacing.

KNOWING where/when to put PRIORITIES is part of doing a good job.

[mikey_hates_everything]

But what is going to pay for all of the contractor people people (project managers)?

[ridesthemiles]

I call them “MUSK’s WIZARDS”

[dagunk]

Now, if I may, I have a bunch of user stories to write.

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User story for ya.

Designed and wrote software for a test station to control a set of receivers. Sat off by myself 10 miles from nowhere to get the core code running and tested. Rigged a stupid simple operator screen, got back to the guys.

“Here’s the information you need - how you want it to look?” That was the fun part. Take suggestions, over to the development machine, pound keyboard, crunch/compile, run it off to a floppy, give it to the guys “Here try this”.

We had a good time, took about a month to fine tune the “operator interface” for the crew.

MSDOS, Borland TurboC, 3.5” floppies, Sneakernet.

Fun little project.

No b’crats, super came by once in a while. (Good Boss, kept the b’crats off my butt. Saved me having to kill them.)

[Steven Scharf]

below the fold?

It’s printed on a newspaper?.........Man they are behind the Times!.......and the Post.........and the Chronicle.........

Yes, it is a newspaper term, but aptly applies to webpages also. The refence in web terms would be being below the point at where you would see it on a computer screen without have to scroll down.

[numberonepal]

You should see what these guys are doing with AI on the daily now. WOW!