The only participation has been indirect by providing intel or instructions on how to target weapons from US bases in Germany. That's what the NY Times talked about. Not troops on the ground.
The constant refrain that "NATO is already in Ukraine" is copium for the fact that the Russians are incapable of defeating the despised hohols and justification for continuing the war.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Press review: Ukraine gets ready to host foreign troops as US prepares for trade war , pierrem15 wrote: No NATO troops are on the ground (yet) in Ukraine. There may be some contractors for maintenance or training. That's it. The only participation has been indirect by providing intel or instructions on how to target weapons from US bases in Germany. That's what the NY Times talked about. Not troops on the ground.
The constant refrain that "NATO is already in Ukraine" is copium for the fact that the Russians are incapable of defeating the despised hohols and justification for continuing the war.
You know that Trump said Ukraine doesn't have any cards to play? He means Ukraine lost and Russia is in control of all the essentials.
There are still NATO troops, including US 'retired' military in Ukraine. The US allowed troops to 'retire' and go fight in Ukraine, and then re-enter the military upon return during Biden's regime. Biden era CIA and other intel are there in Ukraine, fighting but putting Ukrainians in all the worst locations. Western nations contribute operators when they donate MANPADS and various pieces of equipment. It's not just 'some contractors'. NATO wants regime change in RUssia and has worked for decades to get to the point they're at now. They are not trusting Zelensky, the comedian who plays piano with his genitals, to deliver Russia to them. NATO has been running this war - in person and in bunkers and locations in Germany, and NATO lost. NATO nations gave it their best shot and are now transitioning to desperate attempts to get the war started between US and Russia.
Zelensky really has no cards — by autumn there will be no one and nothing to fight with — MP Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/04/06/zelensky-really-has-no-cards-by-autumn-there-will-be-no-one-and-nothing-to-fight-with-mp
EurAsia Daily ^ | 4-6-25 | Unknown to mePosted on 4/6/2025, 5:57:16 PM by bimboeruption
Either the head of the Kiev regime, Vladimir Zelensky, will conclude a truce on acceptable terms, or Ukraine will face a collapse of the front before autumn, the war is over. This was stated by Verkhovna Rada deputy Alexander Dubinsky.
According to him, the official number of desertion cases registered by the State Bureau of Investigations is 175,435 as of April 1. In reality, the MP notes, 60-70% of desertion cases are recorded, that is, in fact, "about 250 thousand people are on the run today, or a third (!) of the Ukrainian army."
"Add here about the same number of missing persons — and you get the same numbers. 250-300 thousand are really fighting in our country against about 600 thousand Russians. This is exactly the situation that (US President Donald) Trump describes to Zelensky when he says that he has no cards in his hands. By autumn there will be no one to fight with and nothing. No matter how brutal the tetsekashniki.
The "peacekeeping" contingent also looks ridiculous against this background, because it will not provide even 10% of the necessary troops. Therefore, except as detachments.
Zelensky can roost as much as he likes — the war is over. Either he concludes a truce on acceptable terms, or Ukraine expects the collapse of the front before autumn. Not yet a defeat, but a heavy blow," Dubinsky writes in his telegram channel.
ransomnote adds:
Verkhovna Rada
National parliament of Ukrainerada.gov.ua
Obama already deployed units of the 173rd Airborne brigade to Ukraine while the Russian army was invading Ukraine. WW3 didn’t start, obviously. For nearly 100 years we’ve seen that the Moscoqw Kremlin’s useful fools couldn’t less about actual facts. They just want those who oppose their corrupt regime dead or disenfranchised/displaced. And they don’t care which.
I’m old enough to note that some of the things being posted sound an awful lot like arguments during the leadup to US troops being sent in strength to SE Asia. I worry about things like a German brigade in Lithuania, or US advisors in Ukraine. I would like for my granddaughters to live in a world where idiots were not egging on bigger wars.