Amid low birth rates, war and emigration, Ukraine’s numbers are dwindling

The Washington Post ^ | February 27, 2025 | David Stern, Kostiantyn Khudov

[Williams]

Silly name calling. When are you moving to Russia, its population is plummeting. I wonder why after all it’s a Christian paradise.

[Williams]

Obviously if there is peace a lot of people will return.

[MinorityRepublican]

What’s worst of all, this is war between countries where you have a high literacy rate, people that are cultured, have western values...

They're Orthodox Christian nations so I wouldn't say that they have "western values".

And we are living in a post-Western world nowadays.

JD had pointed out already that our allies in the West are no longer sharing our values.

So if you are talking about traditional "western values" so far it's just USA and Israel (even though they are not considered to be a part of the Western world).

[Doctor Congo]

There are 100s of thousands of Ukrainian draft dodgers hiding all over the world. I have no idea if they will be welcomed back.

[Kazan]

The war has killed tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers. At least 5 million more have fled and live outside Ukraine, and a fifth of the country — another 5 million people — is under Russian occupation.

The five million under "Russian occupation" are happy to be Russian citizens and don't want go back to being part of Ukraine.

The war continues because Ukrainian nationalists want to drive those there out and seize their homeland.

[Kazan]

What do you consider them and yourself? A neocon? Globalist? Bushie?

[kabar]

Ukraine was one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe before the war. Many of the refugees who fled to Western Europe won’t want to return. Once they have seen Paree, how are you going to keep them down on the farm?

[dforest]

Their POS green cokehead is already, once again, and again and again, changing his mind on the whole thing. He wants more and lots of money and stuff.

https://x.com/i/status/1900924006561120385

Trump needs to demand he is put down and out like the sniveling snake he is.

[adorno]

We lived under The Fake Election Tyranny and The Autopen Tyranny for four years, and we didn't leave...

Were or are you aware that, elections in the U.S. still occur every 4 years for president, and every two years for congress? Meanwhile, when is the last time that Russia had a REAL election? Russians live under the same tyranny no matter who becomes president every 10 or 20 or 30 years. See the difference?

And during those 4 years of 'tyranny' under Biden, the people were still able to criticize him and his administration and were actually able to choose an opposition party candidate, who actually ended up toppling that 'tyranny'. Who woulda thunk it?

[Sacajaweau]

Why are the people in the Russian Occupied Areas not going into other areas of Ukraine??

[Sacajaweau]

“Z” couldn’t even deal with Chicago...You know damn well he has absolutely no input into what goes down. He boasts “I’m a War President”...and that’s why he wears the same damn green shirt....just like Churchill and Truman and....well, you get the idea...

[adorno]

the young in Ukraine wanted Ukraine to join the EU - not to better Ukraine but to get their EU work cards and leave

Simple thinking is easily debunked.

Are you aware that Ukraine was and is not a prison, like Russia had in East Germany? Russia builds walls to keep people in, while western countries don't have such walls, and in fact, the U.s. has been forced to build walls to keep people out. But, immigration is still allowed in all western countries, allowing incoming and outgoing immigration.

Did you notice how so many Ukrainians didn't have to wait for Ukraine to join the EU and left? Some 5 million of them, according to some counts. But, they left because of war and many if not most, will return after the war, as long as Russia is not in control.

Simple thinking is easily debunked.

[rfp1234]

We’d be happy to solve Ukraine’s demographic crisis, by deporting 10+ million fertile, nominally Christian, hard-working “border crossers” to their country.

[T.B. Yoits]

Did you notice how so many Ukrainians didn't have to wait for Ukraine to join the EU and left? Some 5 million of them, according to some counts.

...and they're well aware they can be deported back.

"Poland and Lithuania to help Ukraine repatriate men of fighting age"
https://www.ft.com/content/dd1d3074-61af-4edb-9ed4-a3530158623e

"Poland's Pledge To Repatriate Conscription-Age Men To Ukraine Could Have Economic Costs"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lidiakurasinska/2024/05/11/polands-pledge-to-repatriate-conscription-age-men-to-ukraine-could-have-economic-costs/

Simple thinking is easily debunked.

[packagingguy]

“Don’t worry - Ukraine can be repopulated with Turks, Arabs and Africans.“

Business groups are calling for this very thing.

Ukrainian soldiers would have every right to be hopping mad about this.

Your army buddies killed and then someone in Brussels, London or Davos wants to turn around and give the country over to foreigners.

Elites in the West are pure trash.

[adorno]

Simple thinking is easily debunked.

True. Thanks for quoting me.

Those repatriation efforts by Poland and Lithuania, how has that worked out? How many were actually sent back and how many actually accepted being sent back? If they are booted our of Poland and Lithuania, do you think they'd actually go willingly to Ukraine. They should actually help their country, but will they agree to go and fight? They can always leave again, to other countries.

Simple thinking is easily debunked.

[House Atreides]

“ Silly name calling.”
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Name calling? I thought that ZEEPERS proudly wore that name as they proselytized for Zelensky, Ukraine and more American wealth to be allocated to Zelensky and crew. Or is a sense of shame developing amongst that crowd?

[T.B. Yoits]

If they are booted our of Poland and Lithuania, do you think they'd actually go willingly to Ukraine?

What I think is irrelevant. What they think is what matters.

...and as I said in Post 18, long before Victoria Nuland of the U.S. State Department and her globalists cohorts overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014, the young in Ukraine wanted Ukraine to join the EU - not to better Ukraine but to get their EU work cards and leave. I also added images from media reports about how corrupt the country was.

If they wanted to leave before the war, what makes you think they'll want to go back during or after it?

[heavy metal]

good... don’t breed them if you can’t feed them...

[T.B. Yoits]

Ukrainian soldiers would have every right to be hopping mad about this. Your army buddies killed and then someone in Brussels, London or Davos wants to turn around and give the country over to foreigners.

Like Iraq and Afghanistan...

...Europe

...the United States...