Mozilla (Firefox browser and Thunderbird e-mail client) facing backlash over new T&Cs

various | 3/2/25 | ol' marty

[Red Badger]

I quit FF years ago. BRAVE is now my browser.................

[Bob434]

And thanks for the info about thorium- I won’t bother looking at them further then- sounds like it might be not very secure.

[Cats1]

Bookmark

[goodnesswins]

Thx...I have new computer with Ubuntu that came with Firefox. Have not even been online yet, so I will disable those first.

[packrat35]

I quit using Firefox many years ago as it became a memory hog and was never fixed.

Don’t know if that is still the case now, as I didn’t even know anyone still used it.

[Silentgypsy]

Thank you.

[dennisw]

“Let’s not even get started on the TV.”

Your smart TV is tracking you, and sending your viewing habits back home? To LG, Samsung, google, Amazon, whoever?

[dfwgator]

In Amerika, Television Watches You!

[powerset]

Re: Claws-Mail limits

Yes, we have several email accounts on a total of 3 Dovecot logical servers (at 3 different IP ports on the local server machine) and each Claws-Mail instance also has several accounts. Basically, you can have as many as you want (and have disk space for).

[powerset]

“I hate IMAP, and don’t allow the people who have email accounts on my server to use it either. I suppose it has value to government entities, and for businesses that are legally required to keep such records, but to me, it is like buying gold and then letting the seller store it for you.”

That’s why I run our Dovecot IMAP server on our own *local* machine. None of our mail *stays* on our Postfix server at our rented virtual machine for more than a minute or so. It is transferred immediately to our local Dovecot and removed from the non-local Postfix machine. Thus there is no record of the mail contents there. (We don’t run the Postfix locally because we’d need a static IPv4 address, on fiber, with port 25 etc. unblocked, and that would get expensive, or maybe even impossible.)

So, do you “hate IMAP” because mail would be stored non-locally (in the traditional setup), analogous to “having the seller store the gold”? If so, you might consider our approach. It not only provides easier access, it also allows other important files to be backed up from a single, multi-purpose server which is *local* and, in our case, runs Samba for general file serving.

[SPDSHDW]

yes but you can change it.

[LegendHasIt]

Thanks, but POP works fine for my purposes.

[The Duke]

Thoughts on Opera?

[Bob434]

thanks for the info- I’ve gotta switch from thunderbird- i htink-

[Skooz]

Ditto. He launched the Brave browser which I’ve used since beta. Best browser I’ve ever used.

[Bikkuri]

I use Protonmail now.
It comes with its own email import (and calendar.. and file/folder backup).. all encrypted.

I never even have to log in to my old gmail accounts anymore (thankfully).

[Bikkuri]

Yup, same here.. Brave browser (with chromium, just in case).

[Bikkuri]

"Way try ungoogled-chromium again.
Google hooks removed."

Actually, Chromium is BEFORE Google puts its hooks in. (It is the bare-bones before the pollution)

[trebb]

I’ll have to look it up - I have way too much crap tied to my Gmail and it would be nice to wean off it...

[Bikkuri]

I pay for my account, but there is a free version too.



They also have a service (I think it is included in the free version too) where you can get a temporary email address for filling out forms and other stuff. You can delete it at any time, and it is no longer existent, so anything went there (after deletion) will bounce back.
It also has filters you can easily set up to redirect spam and unwanted mail to the spam folder. I may get 1 or 2 spam mails that slip through a month.

I think the free version gives you 10, while I think I get 50. I use about 20 at any given time. It will automatically redirect back to your main email account.

(That service, off the top of my head, is called SimpleLogin)