Posted on 03/01/2025 12:07:53 PM PST by Beowulf9
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you’re a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up. However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.
Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated. Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.
Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.
Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.
This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them. Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats’ support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him. They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump’s terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.
By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond. Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone”.
Found it an interesting perspective. Possibly true.
Zelensky basically told Vance to kiss his ass.
If the US expects Ukraine to capitulate, what else do you think Ukraine is going to tell them?
This juvenile exchange is simply making the US a laughingstock, a country not to be taken seriously by anyone.
This is an opinion site—and this is my opinion in response to your thread.
Again, no big deal.
Russia and Putin can not be trusted. They did not uphold their promises, broke international law, and violated signed treaties.
Understand that Ukraine has done both the US and NATO a solid by using our money and their men to wear down Russia. Russia is now no longer a significant land threat. The only danger that Russia now poses is nuclear warfare. And that is because of Ukraine.
Well a leader of a country has to have open communication with both sides in order to make a deal.
If one side or the other violates the deal then action has to be readily available to enforce the deal.
Personally I think Trump does not want to be part of the whole thing. He’s no friend of either side. He’s a friend of the United States.
And it’s yet to be seen if Russia will or would even resort to nuclear warfare.
We shall see how it works out and discover who is the laughingstock.
For letting the comedian into the White House? Yes!
But the problem happened the day before,zalensky the comedian met with Linda Graham and democrat traitors where they planned the whole thing,thegready Forehead Murphy from Ct. as well
Clearly, Trump needs to spend less time on FR.
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I hope that is true!
This thing has legs!
Your FR thread that changed the world.
I’m stunned.
“This juvenile exchange is simply making the US a laughingstock, a country not to be taken seriously by anyone.”
“Zelensky tweet
None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. … My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.
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We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.
Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive.
Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format.”
Yeah, Zelensky is really tough, huh? Nah, he is simply a Euroweenie!
I say again:
AH - HA - HA - HA- HA - HA. WHO IS THE LAUGHINGSTOCK NOW, HUH? Zelensky! WHO NOW HAS EGG ON HIS FACE AND HAS TO EAT CROW, HUH? YOU, THAT’S WHO, FRENCH SURRENDER MONEY! ;-)
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