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To: marcusmaximus
There's something about the minerals deal that I think the Ukrainians and many here are not thinking through. I realized this when I read the first agreement included US management of Ukraine's ports.

If the US is managing the ports and many mines, how likely is it that Putin will attack these sites? If the agreement includes sites in occupied territories, the US may negotiate something with Russia from which Ukraine will indirectly receive something vs. the nothing they will receive.

It's a very subtle way of injecting the US into Ukraine without explicit US security guarantees. Putin gets to declare victory and no NATO, but Ukraine has implicit security guarantees because Russia will be unlikely to interfere with US operations. The US gets rare-earths and some cash. It's an insult to Ukraine's sovereignty, but they don't have much choice between becoming a US protectorate or a Russian one.

The art of the deal.

5 posted on 02/21/2025 6:34:30 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

Agree but unfortunately Zelenski is not bright enough to figure it out.


9 posted on 02/21/2025 6:42:04 AM PST by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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To: pierrem15

Zelensky needs to think hard about who should manage the Port of Odesa. The U.S., Russia or China?


10 posted on 02/21/2025 6:43:06 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: pierrem15

I do agree this is the fine line involved.


13 posted on 02/21/2025 6:54:15 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: pierrem15

Pretty much how it looks.

Eastern Ukrain basically will/has become a Russian protectorate and eastern Ukraine will become an American protectorate.

That is why the Euro scum are howling. They are losing all control.


14 posted on 02/21/2025 7:02:55 AM PST by crz
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To: pierrem15

Fantastic points.


29 posted on 02/21/2025 9:15:40 AM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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