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What would actual scientific study of UAPs look like?
phys.org ^ | February 19, 2025 | Evan Gough

Posted on 02/21/2025 2:40:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux

NASA recently initiated a study into UAP called the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Independent Study...

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The research is titled "The New Science of Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP)." The lead author is Kevin Knuth from the Department of Physics at the State University of New York at Albany [...]

"After decades of dismissal and secrecy, it has become clear that a significant number of the world's governments take unidentified aerospace-undersea phenomena (UAP), formerly known as unidentified flying objects (UFOs), seriously–—yet still seem to know little about them," the authors write. "As a result, these phenomena are increasingly attracting the attention of scientists around the world, some of whom have recently formed research efforts to monitor and scientifically study UAP."

The authors review about 20 historical studies, some done by governments and others by private researchers, between 1933 and the present. Countries include the U.S., Canada, France, Russia, and China. Their goal is to summarize and clarify the scientific narrative around UAPs. "Studies range from field station development and deployment to the collection and analysis of witness reports from around the world," the authors write.

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"The problem and opportunity that we face today is that the situation has changed dramatically," according to the authors. We now know that the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) conducted a covert, six-year program called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) to study UAP. With 50 full-time investigators, the AATIP dwarfed other UAP efforts.

The AATIP focused on military-only encounters and considered things like psychic and paranormal phenomena correlated with UAP events. The AATIP created a massive amount of data on UAP that encompassed more than 200,000 cases. (Alarmingly, the effort also produced more than 200 research papers, some over 100 pages long, and none of them have ever been seen by the public or by the US Congress.)

This proves that the effort to study and understand UAP has gained traction and moved from the fringe to the mainstream. It's a signal that UAP research could see increased funding and resources. According to the researchers, that means there needs to be a coordinated effort. The effort needs to be scientific, and data needs to be shared among researchers.

"It is generally agreed that the optimal methodology to study UAP relies on many different types of instruments, spatially separated, to dramatically reduce the possibility of error," the authors write. "This is the only way in which the scientific community will recognize truly anomalous data." The authors say that multi-messenger astronomy, in which objects are studied across wavelengths with multiple telescopes, is a good model for the future study of UAP.

Rigor is required for UAP studies and data to be taken seriously. One group arguing in favor of more UAP scientific research is the UAlbany-UAPx Collaboration, an organization that the lead author of this research, Kevin Knuth, is involved with. They developed rigorous definitions of what detections constitute a UAP and recommended that "at least two of each type of sensor and 2+ distinct sensor types" be used in the effort to study UAP.

(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; fringe; kevinknuth; nasa; ohsomysteriouso; sunyalbany; uap; ufo; ufos

1 posted on 02/21/2025 2:40:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Openurmind; Churchjack; eastforker; Levy78; maddog55; Jonty30; GingisK; Mark17; spirited irish; ...

UAP/UFO Ping.


2 posted on 02/21/2025 2:41:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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Here's the study referred to (in html—a pdf is available at link in excerpt above): The New Science of Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena (UAP)

For those interested, here's another organization that involved in the scientific study of this phenomenon, The Sol Foundation.

It is interesting that Kevin Knuth and Dr. Garry Nolan are on the board of both the UAlbany-UAPx Collaboration and The Sol Foundation.

As an aside, Rear Admiral (Retired) Tim Gallaudet is on The Sol Foundation board.

3 posted on 02/21/2025 2:53:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

USAF Retrieval Program disclosed:

UFO whistleblower Jake Barber would ‘100% testify’ under oath to Congress | Reality Check | NewsNation TV broadcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t37-SKj4rtY


4 posted on 02/21/2025 6:53:11 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RoosterRedux

What would it look like? Something akin to the ‘scientific’ study of the unseen energy called Darwinism.


5 posted on 02/22/2025 1:08:32 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Scientists like Dr. Kevin Knuth (in the article) have been struggling with UFOs because they can’t be taken to the lab for empirical, repeatable analysis. Unfortunately for them, studying UAPs requires adapting scientific methods to phenomena that defy conventional experience.

I would think that such a study would need to combine three approaches: the rigorous standards of laboratory science—despite the absence of repeatability—the investigative breadth of forensic criminology, which identifies causes, patterns, and consequences while also applying empirical methods to all available evidence, and the thorough evidence-gathering of good old-fashioned detective work, which considers all valid evidence, whether material or circumstantial/anecdotal.

Beyond that, scientists would need the mindset of explorers venturing into unknown worlds and biospheres—open to discovering what they can’t yet imagine.


6 posted on 02/22/2025 2:18:23 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: spirited irish

As an aside, I think the UFO matter is beyond the capacity of many scientists because they’re materialists.

I remember back in my early college days, I told my chemistry professor that I was fascinated by the scientific study of the human mind. He huffed and said something like, “That will never be science because it can’t be measured and studied under a microscope. That will always be quackery.”

We can see a bit of that same attitude when it comes to UFOs.


7 posted on 02/22/2025 2:29:53 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux
If they wish to understand UAPs material is available to them in books like Malachi Martin's Hostage to the Devil; Teresa Panaro's Freedom From Darkness,; Clinton Arnold's Powers of Darkness: Principalities and Powers in Paul's Letters; Rabindranath Maharaj's book, Death of a Guru, and other such material.

Rabindranath's out-of-body experiences during meditation had him standing before what he thought were frightening gods. Having come to the Lord he now knows exactly what they were.

In our time the gods of old have returned as Space Brothers, Nordics, greys, insectoids, and other monsters.

8 posted on 02/22/2025 2:38:50 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Yep. As you know, many scientists—including physicists and mathematicians—are locked into a kind of blindness that prevents them from considering anything that sounds even slightly religious.

That’s why people like John Lennox and James Tour are so refreshing.


9 posted on 02/22/2025 2:47:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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