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To: DallasBiff

I think there is another angle to this crash, I’ve looked at the video a bunch of times, it looks to me that the landing gear collapsed on impact with the runway, when that happened one wing dug into the ground causing the plane to rollover and the other wing broke off.

The questions is, if I’m right which is debatable, what caused the landing gear to malfunction, was it pilot error or a maintenance error.

Remember DEI isn’t just affecting the quality of pilots, it also has spread throughout corporations, in Delta’s case to the maintenance crews.


7 posted on 02/19/2025 11:26:26 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: srmanuel

I think the landing gear collapsed on impact due to the (dangerous) speed and direction of said impact.


18 posted on 02/19/2025 11:29:39 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: srmanuel
Remember DEI isn’t just affecting the quality of pilots, it also has spread throughout corporations, in Delta’s case to the maintenance crews.

Good point.

20 posted on 02/19/2025 11:30:41 AM PST by econjack
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To: srmanuel
The pilot failed to "flare" the plane, slamming it onto the runway with such force the landing gear collapsed.

How To Time Your Flare For A Perfect Landing

21 posted on 02/19/2025 11:31:05 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: srmanuel

Yeah - they’re screwed either way. Either the pilot landed too hard or the maintenance crew didn’t maintain the landing gear correctly or Delta is cutting back on upkeep of its planes…

Boeing is probably breathing a sigh of relief not wasn’t one of theirs…


22 posted on 02/19/2025 11:31:16 AM PST by Skywise
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To: srmanuel

From what I’ve read other places...for what it’s worth, the plance descended at too fast of a rate which caused a failure of the landing gear on impact which caused the wing to dig in, which caused the plane to flip...a miracle all walked away.


33 posted on 02/19/2025 11:36:22 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: srmanuel

No, the plane was in a very (abnormally high) high rate of decent and slammed the runway. The gear collapsed due to extreme weight bearing. Crappy flying. The only excuse would be an undetected wind shear, but you can tell by the video the plane was descending too fast.


34 posted on 02/19/2025 11:37:03 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: srmanuel

I saw what you saw in the video, but I also saw a plane descending much to fast that didn’t appear to have its flaps down. This hard landing may have resulted in the right gear collapsing.


39 posted on 02/19/2025 11:39:31 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: srmanuel

You’re pretty close to what an expert said. He added that the plane went through a cloud of snow which reduced visibility and hindered depth perception to ground and caused a hard landing. The hard landing caused the landing gear to fail and puncture the wing fuel tank which caused that brief fire.

He did mention that (he felt) the pilot should have aborted and gone around.


56 posted on 02/19/2025 11:53:46 AM PST by Cold Heart (It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
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To: srmanuel

I read someone compared it to a carrier landing. Obviously a civilian jet isn’t hooking the cable so no reason to fly in so fast and hard. It’s wind or bad pilot. Butt Boi Pete and Democrats say it is Trump’s fault of course.


79 posted on 02/19/2025 12:15:09 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: srmanuel

“...what caused the landing gear to malfunction, was it pilot error or a maintenance error.”

Pilot error; landed to hard. Obvious.


84 posted on 02/19/2025 12:22:59 PM PST by odawg
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To: srmanuel

“…it looks to me that the landing gear collapsed on impact with the runway, when that happened one wing dug into the ground causing the plane to rollover and the other wing broke off.“

I had the same reaction. The landing gear collapsed and the plane rolled. That is not something you can blame on the flight crew, unless a mistake was made, which caused the full weight to come down on one set of gear.


85 posted on 02/19/2025 12:39:30 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: srmanuel

I read on another site that experienced pilots looking at the video believed the rate of descent was too rapid causing a hard landing which could have caused landing gear failure and when a wing tip dug in the ground the cross wind flipped the aircraft. That’s one theory.

Another is that Delta is a super saturated DEI company publicizing that DEI is part of every function within the corporation. Therefore the fact they hid the pilots’ identity is proof there is something to hide.

Certainly there are more floating about.


114 posted on 02/19/2025 1:50:39 PM PST by elpadre
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To: srmanuel
The questions is, if I’m right which is debatable, what caused the landing gear to malfunction, was it pilot error or a maintenance error.

The plane being slammed into the runway is what collapsed the landing gear.

They had wind gusts of up to 70 MPH. High winds are often accompanied by wind shear (which is just the wind moving straight up or down instead of horizontal). Happens a lot around certain airports.

Get a model plane or balsa wood/styrofoam flying plane and stick it out the window of your car at 70 mph.

That is what they likely had to deal with. That is likely what slammed the plane into the ground. It doesn't matter whether you are male or female, experienced or novice, there is no way to avoid because it doesn't show up on radar. The best you can do is hold on tight and prepare to evacuate after the plane and any parts that separate have come to a stop.

132 posted on 02/19/2025 4:22:59 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Guess I'll go back to robbing trains)
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To: srmanuel

Watch the video closer:

At just under 100 feet the a/c is both at too high descent rate and the starboard wing dips; it never comes level again, and the right gear is crushed, ripping off the wing. The rotation/flip was inevitable. Amazing there was no death from the crash.

I have a friend who is a pilot, both fixed and rotary wing. He asserts that this was all weather, but the aspect of the video doesn’t demonstrate a crosswind: It appears to demonstrate a phenomenon I’ve never seen reported: Clear air low altitude wind shear. Usually, wind shear is associated with t-storms, but it looks like either the pilots were incompetent or a vertical downdraft either affected lift or pushed the plane down.

I suppose wake turbulence could have caused it, but all the reports fail to mention wake turbulence, focusing on the winds.

It’s a bit of a mystery...


141 posted on 02/19/2025 9:27:11 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: srmanuel

I’ve watched the video a few times as well. To me, it looked like the plane was leaning at a much more significant angle that I’ve seen in other videos and landed much harder on that one gear. Obviously, their design to take some extra abuse, but was that over the design limits or some other maintenance issue.


142 posted on 02/19/2025 10:23:55 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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