[dfwgator]

They are trying to light a fire under the Euro’s butts to get this done, instead of lollygagging like they have for the last four years.

[Equine1952]

That may be but I don’t think they can do it on their own. I also think Putin will nuke Brussels, London, Berlin, and Paris before Ukraine gets in NATO. I was on a submarine that chased Ivan all over the Mediterranean in the 70’s, if he wants to hit it he will. The world is just lucky he ain’t a Muslim lunatic, he may get old and senile enough to do it though.

[Jyotishi]

“lollygagging”

Exactly. They consider having a responsibility to be a burden.

[SMARTY]

Right, I liked the speech

[rdcbn1]

Normally I would agree that Hegseths’s comments were a bad way to open negotiations but this is the Ukraine we are talking about.

With the Ukraine, however, Hegseths’s comments may be the only way to open negotiations.

The Biden Administration, the EU and Zelensky have turned the Ukraine conflict into a forever war that they long since lost but simply cannot afford to lose.

In fact, many of the EU and US politicians and decision makers who have driven the war are so invested init’s continuation that their only option is to escalate rather than capitulate. Sen. Roger Wicker is one of these guilty politicians who are responsible for the war with it's 1.6 million dead or dying and the destruction of much of the Ukraine.

They would rather see the US and EU become embroiled in a direct military conflict with Russia that spreads into WWIII than accept a Trump imposed peace in Ukraine on terms worse than those that Russia offered 3 years and that they rejected.

They have actively been in the process of doing just that for the last 8 months. Hegseth's comments are much needed because they state the basic reality that everyone needs to acknowledge before negotiations can even begin.

Ukraine has become the war that must never be allowed to end and those that started it cannot allow it to end because of the damage that it will do to them personally. They will have to be forced to do so and Hegseth's comments are the start of this painful process

Peace in Ukraine will definitely cost Zelensky his job and there will probably large electoral losses for the EU and the end of many political careers pols when the truth that Ukraine that they have been hiding finally comes out.

These politicians who started and who have driven the war need to get kicked out of the negotiations in order for the negotiations to get kicked off.