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1 posted on 02/13/2025 8:43:19 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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2 posted on 02/13/2025 8:45:08 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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Tell your Zelensky the deal he gets is the deal he gets.

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3 posted on 02/13/2025 8:46:24 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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Empty words and threats. None of the will work, all of those things have been tried for decades. What Military action is he talking about, Nuclear War? Then we all die.


22 posted on 02/13/2025 9:24:09 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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I don’t care about the large corrupt communist country or the small corrupt fascist country. There’s no way in hell Trump is wasting American lives on this globalist boondoggle but it’s a clever negotiating tactic to use JD as the pit bull.
This war ends soon.


23 posted on 02/13/2025 9:24:17 PM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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That would be suicidal, contrary to everything represented as a reason to vote for Trump and swiftly end the Trump presidency were that to happen. So NO, it’s a lie.


27 posted on 02/13/2025 9:36:16 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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Looks like fake news. If not, Vance just undid any goodwill that Trump created today with Putin. Maybe that’s the purpose of the article. We should know tomorrow.


32 posted on 02/13/2025 9:42:34 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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Polish news now reporting a Polish Delegation comprising of Polish historians are in Moscow……time to carve up that corrupted country called Ukraine into pieces, Poland, Romania, Hungary , Slovakia each get their historic lands back leaving St Z with a rump nation.

Make it so.


40 posted on 02/13/2025 10:05:13 PM PST by delta7
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Liars gonna lie.


45 posted on 02/13/2025 10:39:25 PM PST by Sunsong
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The two statements (Hegseth vs. Vance) reflect two different situations.

Hegseth was saying US troops would not be sent to enforce a cease fire or DMZ.(1)

Vance is holding out a threat of military action if Pooty won’t negotiate in good faith.(2)

1) Sending US troops to enforce a cease fire or DMZ would be incredibly unpopular, and would implode Trump and MAGA from within. That no-go is of course a huge problem, and faced by many potential countries that could be tapped for the job. Not that there are a lot anyway. If you chop out of the list countries that would be unacceptable to either Russia or Ukraine, you’ve over halved the list. Then remove countries with low-competence militaries, their own problems, lack of manpower (this is going to take a lot of manpower), and so on. Who won’t run if things get dicey? The history on that one sure isn’t any good...

I see no solution to the problem of neutral manning of a DMZ with remotely near the numbers of troops needed. Who the hell would want to be in that position, anyway? We’d be basically setting up an Eastern Euro variation of the Palestinian problem, on a far larger scale. Some Ukrainians will NEVER accept a loss of Eastern Ukraine, and, with access to good technology, stealthy AI drones, etc... Even a well equipped 200k strong peacekeeping force (Z-Man’s number) will have its hands full. Somebody tell me where this force will come from?

2) Indeed, Trump has previously said he’d flood Ukraine with weapons if Pooty wouldn’t deal, which is a far better option than troops, or even air / missile strikes against Russian forces inside Ukraine, in that situation. Best, IMO, in that event, would be to ask Congress for a large amount of discretionary weapons support - that is, the weapons will essentially be ok’d for sending, but, the President is not obliged to send them. Hopefully Pooty would smell the roses. (”Vlad, we have 300 F-16’s set aside to prep, and 300 volunteer [mercenary] pilots. I don’t want to send them, but...”)

Trump has a quite large amount of funding already appropriated by Congress to initially draw from, as around half the support appropriated has never actually been disbursed(!), and some of that has not been obligated — it appears to be mired in the bureaucracy, essentially.

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/

(As of 9/30/2024)


48 posted on 02/13/2025 11:11:39 PM PST by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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There is absolutely no public will for us to get involved in a direct conflict with Russia. Biden was not even insane enough to go there.

So, there is zero chance of us getting into a war with Russia that would cripple Trump's Presidency, distract from far more important issues and would have absolutely nothing to do with our national security.

This is the sort of wars that the President has repeatedly condemned and promised to get us out of. And, Trump has always kept him promises.

87 posted on 02/14/2025 9:24:57 AM PST by Kazan
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