Posted on 02/13/2025 8:43:19 PM PST by marcusmaximus
Vice President JD Vance said Thursday that the U.S. would hit Moscow with sanctions and potentially military action if Russian President Vladimir Putin won’t agree to a peace deal with Ukraine that guarantees Kyiv’s long-term independence.
Vance said the option of sending U.S. troops to Ukraine if Moscow failed to negotiate in good faith remained “on the table,” striking a far tougher tone than did Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who on Wednesday suggested the U.S. wouldn’t commit forces.
“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage” the U.S. could use against Putin, Vance said.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal hours after President Trump said he would start negotiating with Putin to end the war in Ukraine, Vance said: “I think there is a deal that is going to come out of this that’s going to shock a lot of people.”
The vice president’s remarks, coming a day before a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, offered the Trump administration’s strongest-yet support for Kyiv in the face of Russian demands that it disarm and replace the current government.
“The president is not going to go in this with blinders on,” Vance said. “He’s going to say, ‘Everything is on the table, let’s make a deal.’”
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Well, speaking of great speeches:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-in-poland-transcript-of-warsaw-remarks
Quite a few here, I suspect, have problems with some of its best points.
Hopefully, President Trump is reminded of his own words, from time to time.
I disagree.
Ukraine - before the war started - was and still is - the least productive and poorest nation in the European Common Market.
Much of its mineral wealth is related to Clean Energy and Electric Vehicles.
The market value of its most important minerals is based on massive government subsidies from other countries.
“Vance said the option of sending U.S. troops to Ukraine if Moscow failed to negotiate in good faith remained “on the table,””
Got a video where he says that? That’s entirely contradicting what he’s been saying about the war. MSN & WSJ are known lying sources.
Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
A lot of the background emotional context comes from 2019, the impeachment.
The Dems somehow convinced a MAGA faction that the Ukrainians were complicit. It may have been, to date, the Dems greatest achievement. If screwing over innocent people is an achievement then its par for the course.
There is a financial reason for Putin's seizure of Crimea and Donbas, its where the large natural gas deposits exist.
Ukraine does indeed control Europe's second-largest known reserves of natural gas, almost 80 percent of which are located east of the Dnipro River.
Yup, with most not wanting to be under Putins rule. At the start of the war 50% of Ukraine's army were Russian speakers.
YOU should have gotten the ZOT for calling me twice (!!) a KKK member, you nasty POS. The link to the thread shows you went off the rails like a crazy lunatic for no reason.
There was no mention of anything related to the KKK.
You saw that I’m currently living in GA and you thought that gives you (a Filipino, living in Spain) the right to display this kind of behavior.
Here is your post. Your other disgusting posts were pulled by the mods.
To: ANKE69
Your traditional costume tells us all everything about you.
You disgusting shitheads actually copied it from Catholic hermandades or cofradias, probably after your predecessors saw some in former Spanish/French settlements, like New Orleans.
The problem here is why you wear it. In Spain, Italy, parts of France, the point is to hide the identities of members of lay Catholic brotherhoods. These brotherhoods exist to support charities, usually being the main support of religious-social institutions, seminaries, orphanages, Catholic schools, retirement homes, etc., and on feast days to organize and staff religious processions, that all may see that there are indeed believers out there, that will go to all that trouble. They hide their personal identities and work through these brotherhoods to retain anonymity.
Matthew 6:2-4 - “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
And -
Psalms 115:1 - Not to us, Lord, not to us, but to your name be the glory
So, made for such a worthy, humble purpose, in your neck of the woods it has been transformed into a way of not just hiding the identity of evil doers, but of announcing such evil, usually with great pride, so all may see that the community is riddled with this evil. This is a typical working of Satan, perverting the good into evil.
Throw away your costume, repent, and believe again.
45 posted on 1/15/2025, 6:45:56 PM by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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You have it backwards. It is Russia who marched in. The Ukrainians are just trying to defend their homeland. Just as all Americans would if someone invaded the US.
And so we have been hearing for three years. But look again, the Russian economy is in serious trouble. Putin is bleeding Russia dry to prosecute this war.
You voted for Trump only because you thought he would hand Ukraine over to the Russians? I voted for him for what he going to do domestically.
lol you are obviously over the target, the MRLS meme warriors are firing full salvos 😂
They’re mad at me for statements made by Vice President Vance.
“Are you a Russian?”
There are a few here I suspect of exactly that.
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There are a number of admitted Russians, including one ex-Soviet officer - their admissions came on a number of unrelated threads. Some try to deny their admission these days.
St. Petersburg had such high hopes 🍈 🦠😂
characters enjoying much respect in Poland.
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They will be heroes for negotiating with Russia to get their historic territories back from the Ukies.
Best the Ukie War cheerleaders finally hang it up. US’s decades long corrupted project Ukraine is DEAD, over, failed, and now President Trump can normalize relations with President Putin, as should be.
Vlad keeps his ethnic Russian Provinces chocked full of minerals- a very good lesson to the western war cheerleaders. I am sure Vlad will sell us all we need.
I will wait to the end. Trump is a negotiator and it is still early. Neither you nor I (nor Putin and Zelensky) really know what his end game will be. As for the ethnic Russian provinces, that would only be Crimea, not Donbas and definitely not Kherson or Zaporizhzhia. Anyone who is still pushing the idea that these are ethnic Russian provinces is not being honest.
Really? I didnt know some had been positively ID’ed.
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