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To: hardspunned

Isn’t the F-22 Raptor a better plane?


3 posted on 02/10/2025 7:43:06 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

I’m pretty sure when fighting the Russians or Chinese, both will be shown to be obsolete. Check out the capabilities of the S500.


6 posted on 02/10/2025 7:46:20 AM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: Carriage Hill

Isn’t that the one that we cant make more of w/o starting from scratch because Obama had the tooling/dies/blueprints etc. all destroyed?


8 posted on 02/10/2025 7:47:19 AM PST by desertsolitaire ( Lee Harvey Oswald and the Bands final performance)
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To: Carriage Hill

Yes, the F22 is stellar.


11 posted on 02/10/2025 7:49:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Carriage Hill

A much, much better aircraft. Absolutely fantastic fighter.


12 posted on 02/10/2025 7:52:46 AM PST by AnglePark (My opinion is the most worthless thing I own.)
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To: Carriage Hill
Isn’t the F-22 Raptor a better plane?

Yes ....but Obama had the tooling jigs scrapped

Maybe Elon Musk can reverse engineer a new set of tools to make some more

and smaller ones to act as drones.

17 posted on 02/10/2025 7:59:56 AM PST by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeons)
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To: Carriage Hill
Isn’t the F-22 Raptor a better plane?

It's the superior plane but it's not going to be able to defend itself against 100 drones. That's where we are heading.

We should be building motherships with drones in the sky instead.

24 posted on 02/10/2025 8:13:47 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Carriage Hill

Yep, the A-10 too. That’s one plane they better not EVER take out of production or retire.


26 posted on 02/10/2025 8:16:45 AM PST by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: Carriage Hill
"Isn’t the F-22 Raptor a better plane?"

I am not a pilot and I have no special knowledge about fighter planes, but in 2017 I had lunch at a small club in Hawaii which overlooks Pearl harbor with my BIL who was an Air Force F16 pilot and three other Air Force F35 pilots who used to fly F16s. The F35 pilots were discussing technical matters with my BIL and I could not understand a word of what they were saying. I thought, as you do, that the F35 was not very good, based on all that I had heard. Finally, I interrupted them and asked why the F35 was so bad. The conversation came to a complete halt and there was silence for a few seconds, until one of the pilots asked me if I had not been listening to anything they were saying. In their view, the F35 was an outstanding fighter and was so much better than anything else that they compared flying against other fighters to "clubbing baby seals". I do not know what to believe, but I have to respect their judgment on that.

30 posted on 02/10/2025 8:30:27 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: Carriage Hill

yes but there is no way to make new ones all plans, tools, & production lines are gone


56 posted on 02/10/2025 9:50:43 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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