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To: marcusmaximus

translation: Lets make a deal since you cut off my money supply we have to end this bogus war


2 posted on 02/07/2025 12:26:43 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Z: “Let’s do a deal that let’s me escape with my life for one million Ukraine men dead.”


6 posted on 02/07/2025 12:34:15 PM PST by A strike ("We'd like to know a little bit about you for our files ..)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

If an election were held today in Ukraine, Zelensky would lose—bigly.


17 posted on 02/07/2025 1:50:39 PM PST by kabar
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Translation: The aid is going to come regardless because kicking Russian influence and corruption out of Europe has always been in US national interest. But we need to couch it in terms even the dullest tools in the shed can understand. So here is some pablum for them to digest.


22 posted on 02/07/2025 2:14:25 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The USA’s MONETARY contribution is almost negligible compared to the Euro’s much larger financial support. Where we are way ahead is in sending weapons.

What’s interesting is that the weapons appropriations (ie., funding passed by Congress) appear to substantially exceed the stated value of actual weapons releases’ to Ukraine. Shipment amounts and dates were stopped being given out quite a while back - understandable from a security standpoint, but, the “releases” occur B4 “sends” anyway.

One of the problems in trying to track this stuff is that different parts of the US Gov’t, not to mention outside sources, use different terminology. Here is the link for the Inspector General Office supposed to be tracking all the support (from the USA):

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/

On that site “appropriated or otherwise made available” is roughly the same thing as “appropriations” or “funding passed by Congress” stated other places. “Obligated” seems to line up with “released”. That is, the Administration has said “send it”. “Disbursed” seems to line up with “committed” at the Ukraine Support Tracker website, and means “out the door” or in the process to go out the door (which, if it refers to, say, a Bradley Fighting Vehicle needing some spiffing up, might take months.)

Basically, one can conclude there is often a lot of lag in the system. Some surprise, huh?

In any event, rare minerals for weapons seems like a fair deal, and in fact was in Z-Man’s “Five Point Plan”, which came out on Oct. 16, 2024, was presented to Biden, Harris, Trump, and major US allies in Sept. 2024, and to the EU summit in October. It would seem that Trump is the party who has picked back up on it, possibly thinking supplies from China may become extremely problematic?


38 posted on 02/07/2025 9:09:29 PM PST by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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