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To: grundle
After posting the last message, something else came to mind. This week in my college music class we've been discussing, among other 19th century composers, Ancieto Ortega, Mexico's version of Charles Ives.

Ives is famous for "inventing" the concept of personal financial planning in his years with what is now AXA Equitable, but he is also famous for composing music without worrying about trying to live off his music.

Ortega is famous for composing the Zaragosa March and the opera Guatimoztin, but he is also famous for being Mexico's first gynecologist, and for building the first women's hospital in Mexico. When he was studying medicine, he went to Paris to study gynecology, since that was where all the latest research was being conducted. I wonder what he would say about how far French gynecological medicine has fallen.

21 posted on 02/06/2025 7:24:43 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

Years ago, my OB/GYN told me that, back in the day, the French were light-years ahead of other nations in his field. He explained that the Parisian doctors began seriously studying gynecology because of all the women suffering from fistula . . . generally due to complications with delivery. You can look it up . . . very debilitating, unpleasant, and potentially fatal condition (especially before antibiotics).


35 posted on 02/06/2025 8:19:00 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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