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To: marcusmaximus

Is the US debating with itself again, without consulting Russia?

neocons never learn.


5 posted on 02/01/2025 10:01:06 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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My personal scenario for a long lasting peace in Ukraine has always been Ukrainian senior military officers who replace Zelensky, and who are Russia friendly via a lifetime of friendship with their Russian military classmates.

So then you have a Ukraine government. It would be entirely technocratic. All CIA and MI6 types executed. Farms resume operations. Trains, power etc.

Elections would then be held, but no time soon.


7 posted on 02/01/2025 10:09:56 AM PST by Owen
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This is the Trump deal and it’s been discussed with Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine will probably agree to the deal next week in Washington DC. Then Russia will play more games and then finally agree.

Initial agreements with US- Ukraine next week, Russia week after

Trump meeting with Zelensky

Trump meeting with Putin

Easter Ceasefire April 20

Ukraine withdraws from Kursk April 21

Parameters agreement by May 8th - No NATO for Ukraine, Ukraine joins EU by 2030, Ukraine keeps size of military, Continued US military Support, Russia keeps currently occupied territory, but doesn’t get additional annexed territory

May 9th- Putin victory parade

May 10th- Ukraine ends martial law and makes plans for October Presidential and Parliamentary elections

October - First round of Ukraine elections

November - Second round of Ukraine elections

January 2026 - Negotiations on permanent peace deal

December 2028 - Sanctions on Russia ended


11 posted on 02/01/2025 10:19:01 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: kiryandil

“Is the US debating with itself again, without consulting Russia?”

Eventually Trump will have to get rid of Kellogg, he’s far too compromised by CNN to do his job.


17 posted on 02/01/2025 10:42:32 AM PST by BobL
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To: kiryandil

“Is the US debating with itself again, without consulting Russia?”

Yeah, duh.

Russia undertook real war...everything but WMD...to keep western troops out of Ukraine, and ensure no military threat on their southern flank.

And for some reason a bunch of dumbasses think they’ll agree to let western troops into Ukraine to police a ceasefire.

Such stupid is hard to comprehend.


26 posted on 02/01/2025 2:18:15 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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