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To: MtnClimber

No other countries do it that I have heard of. And the 14th Amendment is clear as day.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

When did they start enforcing the “anchor baby” make it across the goal line concept? It sure wasn’t back then.


5 posted on 01/23/2025 1:28:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: DesertRhino

The Civil Rights Act, passed at the first session of the Thirty-ninth Congress, began by enacting that “all persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed....

It was feared that a mere law might be done away with by a future Congress, so a constitution amendment was proposed to ensure the Civil Rights Act would be the law indefinitely.

In the amendment, the clause was changed to deal with the problem of American Indians who paid tax but often acted up at the time on their own tribal leaders and not at the behest of a foreign power:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The Congress went from:
and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed

to:

subject to the jurisdiction thereof

The people who changed the text said on the record that the jurisdiction has to be “complete” - i.e. encompassing all the scope of original phrase (and even including Indians who generally paid the taxes levied).

It should be borne in mind that:
1. no African ruler could at the time prove he had a right to allegiance from any particular freedman
2. no European ruler could at the time prove he had a right to allegiance from any particular Gypsy
3. the Chinese and Japanese came to California and left their homeland behind
4. it took a lot of effort to get to California.

Yes, Wong’s family returned to China, but probably because of growing racism. Wong Ark Kim wanted to return to the US so much he paid a lot to do so and fought a case to the Supreme Court level.

As an aside, after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese in California did not ‘take up the sword’ for Emperor Hirohito.


20 posted on 01/23/2025 2:32:08 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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