Trump's threat against Moscow on Ukraine seen as an insulting false start by some in Russia

Reuters AOL ^ | 1/23/2025 | ANDREW OSBORN

[KTM rider]

I disagree,

and you have the entire Deep State establishment and the world MSM "news media" to support your position

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[pierrem15]

and you have the entire Deep State establishment and the world MSM "news media" to support your position

A broken clock is still right twice a day. I don't base my position from the MSM, but on having lived in the area and having visited Ukraine before the current war.

The current war doesn't have its origins simply in the 2000s: the Russians have been trying (unsuccessfully) to subjugate and Russify all of their neighbors to the West for 400 years.

[pierrem15]

Donated!

Ok, we simply disagree about the situation, and it would be better if both sides stopped the name calling.

Thanks

[dforest]

Trump is doing great and he is operating in true Trump style. So is Putin.

This is going to end and it will be very interesting to watch.

[marcusmaximus]

This is going to end and it will be very interesting to watch.

[Allegra]

This just never gets old. :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZwG7mIpEAI

[KTM rider]

It was fun bantering with you.

I do understand your thinking. Believe it or not I used to think about the same way, but after I started studying up from multiple sources, not just USAMSM "news" I have a different perspective and it is disturbing,

I think there could be a better way for nations to live together in this world other than the old paranoid dog eat dog, big fish eat the little fish war system. That would include Russia and China, the politicians and "deep state" in this country act like organized crime mobs and its time for them to go and get some sane people in charge, beat down the fake news, hijacked science junk and start building stuff up and cooperating instead of breaking and taking.

[pierrem15]

Thanks. There are arguments to be made on both sides about Ukraine. But having been to Ukraine and having lived in Poland and Germany and also knowing how long the history of the current conflict is and Russia's role for the past 400 years, I think we should be doing everything we can to help the Ukrainians resist.

I share your desire for better world, but knowing at least some history, I tend to think of that as more of a hope than a plan.