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Russia's Putin discusses 'multipolar global order' with China's Xi hours after Trump inauguration
ABC News AP ^ | 1/21/2025 | VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 01/21/2025 7:18:11 PM PST by marcusmaximus

MOSCOW -- Russian President Vladimir Putin had a call Tuesday with Chinese President Xi Jinping, emphasizing the two countries’ close ties, a day after Donald Trump was sworn in as the 47th U.S. president.

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“We jointly support the development of a more just multipolar global order and work to ensure indivisible security in Eurasia and the world as a whole,” Putin told Xi in remarks carried by the Russian state TV. “Joint efforts by Russia and China play an important stabilizing role in global affairs.”

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KEYWORDS: axisofevil; china; chinarussia; eussr; fourthreich; multipolar; multisockglobalorder; org; prc; putin; redchina; russia; russiachina; tds; vladimirisachenkov; xi; xijinping
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To: buwaya

Good luck with those ideas, they’ll all just send Europe into the sewer EVEN FASTER, particularly stealing the $300B.


21 posted on 01/21/2025 9:36:53 PM PST by BobL
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To: marcusmaximus

Obviously Putin and Xi are concerned about Trump taking back the Panama Canal


22 posted on 01/21/2025 9:40:46 PM PST by drypowder
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To: BobL

Er, by what mechanism are these going to “send Europe into the sewer EVEN FASTER”?


23 posted on 01/21/2025 10:35:06 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“Er, by what mechanism are these going to “send Europe into the sewer EVEN FASTER”?”

Who will trust them with their money? Kind of hard to have trade with countries if they fear you’ll simply STEAL their money.


24 posted on 01/21/2025 10:57:14 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

Seems unlikely. Kind of a given. Do not start such wars, or make yourself into what everyone hates. This was a given. Everybody and his brother, (among the states inclined to be annoying) have suffered the same fate. Iran, Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc.

And on the other side, there simply isn’t a state or group of them that can provide better “safety” (a safe harbor from political risk).


25 posted on 01/21/2025 11:03:36 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“Seems unlikely. Kind of a given. Do not start such wars, or make yourself into what everyone hates.”

That’s today, tomorrow it might be prohibiting little kids from getting their dicks chopped off, as is what Hungary is dealing with now. In other words, once you WEAPONIZE money, countries will not forget about it and will always fear it, regardless of how much you try to say “Nothing to worry about”.

As to your other question, they’ll find countries that DO NOT weaponize money.


26 posted on 01/21/2025 11:10:15 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

Actually, at various times Biden lifted sanctions, and also suppressed US energy production to assist the Russians and Iranians in selling their more expensive-to-extract oil.


27 posted on 01/21/2025 11:20:48 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: BobL

The trouble is that there are no countries that do not weaponize money, or have any significant track record of such forbearance. And there are risks beyond this one aspect of political risk.

Look for “political risk” premium.


28 posted on 01/21/2025 11:30:32 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BobL

https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/ctryprem.html


29 posted on 01/21/2025 11:33:10 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: piasa

True, but people still think it’s the 1980s and Russia depends on energy for virtually all of their ‘hard currency’ imports. Times have changed, and that became quite obvious when Ursala PROMISED that Russia’s economy was “in tatters, I tell you it’s in tatters!”...nearly 3 years ago. Since then, the World Bank upgraded Russia to a “High-Income Country”.


30 posted on 01/21/2025 11:33:30 PM PST by BobL
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To: buwaya

“The trouble is that there are no countries that do not weaponize money, or have any significant track record of such forbearance.”

An unknown is FAR BETTER than a proven crook.


31 posted on 01/21/2025 11:34:43 PM PST by BobL
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To: marcusmaximus

Trump is still getting the same faux intel.


32 posted on 01/21/2025 11:35:56 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: buwaya

Sorry, it’s politicized - claims that the US is ZERO RISK when they’re already involved with stealing a HUGE amount of money.


33 posted on 01/21/2025 11:37:31 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

The risk premium is a “revealed preference” metric, the implied risk international investors allow. You will have to argue this with vast numbers of people and institutions.

It’s also relative. It’s not zero risk absolutely, but compared to the available options. If you were the Kuwaiti national oil company and you had to park some money for a while, would you buy US bonds or Chinese? How much greater yield will the Chinese have to give you to try them out?


34 posted on 01/21/2025 11:47:41 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BobL

But they do.

” Russia depends on energy for virtually all of their ‘hard currency’ imports. “


35 posted on 01/21/2025 11:49:43 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Wait until they price-in the theft of $300 BILLION. Then we’ll get a better idea if the move was so ‘brilliant’.


36 posted on 01/21/2025 11:51:31 PM PST by BobL
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To: buwaya

“But they do. “Russia depends on energy for virtually all of their ‘hard currency’ imports.”

Just because you claim it doesn’t make it true. But regardless, EVERY time the Neocons have tried to ‘sanction’ Russian oil it just finds new ways to flow.


37 posted on 01/21/2025 11:53:25 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports-by-category


38 posted on 01/21/2025 11:57:49 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Okay, we’ll stick a pole up Putin’s fanny, then Xi, then the Iranians, anyone else want one? Z? Trudeau? George Soros?

There’s yer multi-polar world.


39 posted on 01/22/2025 12:02:11 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (For two countries with so many lawyers, there ain't much justice in Canada or America (yet))
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To: buwaya

Thanks, like I said, they’re now FAR from being dependent on oil. And of that 43%, half (at least) are to China - good luck stopping that!


40 posted on 01/22/2025 12:02:57 AM PST by BobL
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