Posted on 01/18/2025 12:52:12 AM PST by RandFan
Dismayed by the amount of support the TikTok Ban is getting and a Unanimous decision by the men and women in black robes further alarms me and will just embolden the Feds and Congress to engage in more online censorship.
How come some (most?) Freepers don't see this? Are you still watching the networks and believing the foreign entity stuff?
You understand that the legislation is broader than that?
You're going to be a urologist?
Put UK on the list. FR is then deemed under foreign influence & can be banned.,
You should know they can and will do something stupid like this at some point or at least admit it’s possible ?
Because they are silly enough to trust government and take them at their word. That ideology is now antiquated and obsolete. You can NEVER trust the word of our government. They are always underhanded and trying to screw the people. They have some idea that is their job...
How many times do we have to get screwed before we wake up to this reality? This complete failure to learn from our own mistakes is driving me nuts... Trump is not going to be able to save this country, we will just thwart him our own selves with ignorance.
The UK?? Did Jim/John R. move?
Enough with the Strawmen.
It prob. won’t happen and may NOT be FR but they have more in mind than just TikTok and notice a lot of the language is at the discretion of the president or the present day administration.
It’s a terrible law and allows a future Admin. to go after websites, forums and political opponents
I would have thought the GOP learned their lesson but no.
*******It is astonding
There are a lot of foreign donors here so it can be deemed under their wide language to be whatever they want to shut the place down.
I’m sure you can twist the language and it’s not a strawman argument
“Most FReepers are statist.”
Few Freepers seem statist.
“but the unanimous court including Thomas and Alito. that’s not so clear to me. why would Thomas go along with it. he certainly is not afraid of the people and their rights to know the truth in the Constitution.”
Because they no longer stay true to the Constitution. They haven’t for a hundred years. They “go with the flow”, they “go along to get along”. 99% of Congress and the Supreme Court are controlled by global foreign organizations. And so they do what they are told to do... They are lapdogs...
The debate is raging. It’ll be interesting to see what happens next week on this.
60 odd replies at this time shows you at least we are discussing it and it’s not one sided as I cynically thought or considered originally!!
Held invalid, meaning Constitutionally impermissible.
Constitutional impermissibility in part of a statute has traditionally placed the entirety of the statute in justifiable danger of being struck down by SCOTUS.
Because this is now black letter Constitutional Law, the statutory language you are referencing is now commonly included by Congress in laws that they pass. As in, boilerplate language.
It is a signal to SCOTUS: Please do not strike this entire law down on Constitutional grounds if it is possible to preserve one or more parts of it that logically can function as intended without the struck-down part.
SCOTUS has traditionally taken such language into account when evaluating whether and when an entire statute should be struck down as unconstitutional. But it has not ceded its independent judgment and will strike the entire statute down if it sees the invalid portion as being “to the heart” of what the statute was intended to do, or how it was intended to function.
At this point it should be said, though, that SCOTUS can seem at times to lean towards being too deferential at times, vis. Justice Roberts preserving Obamacare (Tax vs. Penalty distinction in the case of an individual having failed to purchase the type or level of health care insurance required by that law).
Excellent post. Everyone here should support free speech. Unregulated speech. Speech not censored by the power mad corrupt tyrants who pretend to be our representatives in Washington. “Free” means you can say what you want where you want. When the tyrannical blob in DC “bans” a site where people simply gather to communicate, under no coercion, then that “blob” is the enemy, not a friend. And the site being “banned” could just as easily be FreeRepublic, or Rumble, or Telegram. It is Amazing and sickening how many dimwitted fake patriots cheer on the Deep State tyrants as they attack our God given rights that once were protected under our Constitution. I pray that everyone here takes a moment to pause and reflect on the value of freedom, how scarce it is in this world, and considers that maybe the Deep State also operates powerful propaganda machines that spew out lies tailored to each political flavor, including MAGA. The lie crafted for MAGA people now is “evil Chinese” and “evil Russians” must be destroyed along with anything they are connected with, like TikTok. The fact is this is a “narrative” that works well to create hate that then becomes a demand that our own freedom of speech be limited because the “boogeyman” in China is so bad it is OK to destroy a speech platform. Just like it was OK to have “15 Days to Slow the Spread”. Fifteen days of government coercion and insanity and closed churches and curfews and shuttered businesses. All that to defeat “the common cold”. Brought to you by our government. How did that work out. What was Day 16 like?
Wake up and stop being a dupe for people who love to have you set fire to your own freedoms. Please.
How about if the government says it wants to ban just a small category of “bad guns” that are made in Germany, because Germany is where Hitler operated and Hitler was bad and there are still Nazi’s in Germany. Just a few guns will be affected.
As a political site, FR is great. As a legal interpreter site, not so much.
If the standard is the language of a law can mean anything then all laws are anti-free speech.
Speaking of legalizing recreational nukes, any thoughts on Red Note, ya'll?
Trump has already said he’s gonna try to come up with way to unban it.
Guesd people didnt learn from Bush’s Patriot Act and Obamacare which took freedom and choice from Americans.
It is good if it is OUR dictator.
Similar to the drug problem it is because millions of Americans have no moral foundation and are always looking for cheap thrills.
Yes.
And since I'm a heavy guy, who likes weather prediction, you can call me a...
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Meaty Urologist.
This ‘ban’ if you will was put in place once again because of RINOs led by Mike Johnson, pushed through the senate by Chuckie and signed by Xiden. Our biggest and strongest enemy is not the dems per se, it is the GOPe/uniparty and wish people would realize this.
Know your enemy, that first CR spending bill by Johnson was THEE perfect example of this type of action and we are now seeing the result of RINOism - the good news is that folks like Charlie Kirk, (TPUSA) President Trump, Elon etc. are against this. And the fact that the SCOTUS ruled 9-0 against without a full trial must tell us is that it was a very specific clause that the ruling came from, like an FCC ruling buried deeply or something like that.
So yes it sucks in the short run (blame it on RINOS) but it won’t stand up in the long run.
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