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Apocalypse Still Unspooling
Kunstler.com ^ | 11 Jan, 2025 | James Howard Kunstler

Posted on 01/11/2025 4:58:31 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

All California needs now is an unprecedented earthquake.


21 posted on 01/11/2025 7:10:55 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: eyeamok

What about somebody with a homemade meth lab in the boonies?

Those can easily cause fires.


22 posted on 01/11/2025 7:14:58 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: central_va

If you listen to the interviews on local news coverage it looks like most people who lived both Pacific Palisades and Altadena had lived there for many years—or had homes passed down from one generation to another.

Proposition 13 gave major incentives for folks to keep homes “in the family” and/or stay where you are.

Otherwise homeowners would be looking at severe property tax increases.

That is one way that the middle class copes with CA insanely high housing prices.


23 posted on 01/11/2025 7:18:16 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

I see young dyke couples in their 20s living in those cracke boxes by the sea. What gives?


24 posted on 01/11/2025 7:20:05 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cgbg
cracker boxes by the sea

Fixed it.

25 posted on 01/11/2025 7:20:42 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I am guessing most of those homes (or at least the land itself) were passed down from relatives—with legal games played to keep within the rules of Proposition 13.

In addition many of the ocean front properties are rented so those who live there may not be the owners.

One reason I left CA many decades ago was that I was renting—nice places btw—but could never afford to buy anywhere I wanted to live.

The rent/buy ratio was and in still is way out of whack—since CA folks think real estate will go up and up forever.

So far they have been correct in most cases.


26 posted on 01/11/2025 7:24:15 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: MtnClimber

An insurance company not renewing your policy is not “cancelling” your insurance.


27 posted on 01/11/2025 7:24:35 AM PST by wny
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To: MtnClimber
“ where are the thousands of competent building contractors going to come from to work on so many replacement houses in one locality at the same time?”

Maybe this is the big break for Boxabl houses?

28 posted on 01/11/2025 7:29:19 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: MtnClimber

Methinks after we count the dead and homeless we come to realize LA never had the number of voters to match the “ballots” cast for democrats....


29 posted on 01/11/2025 7:34:45 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: MtnClimber

“Life imitates art,”

Don’t flatter yourself
Sometimes it just burns it


30 posted on 01/11/2025 7:53:15 AM PST by conserv8
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To: MtnClimber

Back when WHITE MEN ran California, their approach to fires was to assume that they would ALWAYS start, usually due to man, sometimes by accident (a gust of wind at a BBQ), or by arson. Either way, they did not care how they started, but they ALWAYS assumed that they would start and developed approaches to either put them out early or at least keep them away from heavily populated areas.

Now California is basically run like South Africa, where the DEIs were given an EXCELLENT infrastructure to deal with fires, but through a combination of hiring inept people and corruption, simply cannot (or, even worse, will not) operate and maintain that infrastructure properly.

Enabling DEI is one of the PRIME REASONS that I blast conservatives here who claim that ‘there’s no difference between the parties’ so why does voting in November even matter? The bottom line was that through the 1980s the state was essentially run by Republicans (or at least Democrats who knew to keep qualified people running critical services, and NOTHING like this fire ever happened).


31 posted on 01/11/2025 8:01:09 AM PST by BobL
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To: MtnClimber
The bottom-line is that an awful lot of formerly middle-class and even well-off people will be homeless possibly for years ahead.

Or more likely most of them will flee California. I have mixed feelings about this. I'm a refugee from Illinois myself, but insofar as many of them created their own mess, one doesn't want them to spread their politics and dysfunction elsewhere. I'm leaning more and more towards the idea that voting (at least for local positions) should be restricted to permanent residents of a community who have been there for some time, and thus best know the local issues and candidates.

32 posted on 01/11/2025 8:30:05 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: cgbg

And those with prop 13 homes in the family, most are dying off or will be. Eventually everyone in California will be paying sky high taxes


33 posted on 01/11/2025 9:03:27 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

CA will become like rent-controlled Manhattan—lots of dead people without death certificates buried out of state in the middle of the night.

Bonus—the family keeps cashing those social security checks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/02/feds-target-social-security-scammers-living-off-dead-relatives/3841975002/


34 posted on 01/11/2025 9:09:58 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: mewzilla

“The permitting process will take years.“

True. Right now they aren’t letting fire trucks from m other states thru until they’ve been DOT inspected. Pure insanity.


35 posted on 01/11/2025 9:11:13 AM PST by TalBlack (Time to use the Law and the Power. Good luck Mr. President.)
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To: MtnClimber

bump


36 posted on 01/11/2025 10:04:37 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: MtnClimber

“Someone forgot to fill up the fire hydrants.”

This all is beginning to make me think of a the great old Jethro Tull classic, Locomotive Breath

In the shuffling madness
Of the locomotive breath
Runs the all-time loser
Headlong to his death

He feels the piston scraping
Steam breaking on his brow
Old Charlie stole the handle and
The train it won’t stop going
No way to slow down

He sees his children jumping off
At the stations one by one
His woman and his best friend
In bed and having fun

He’s crawling down the corridor
On his hands and knees
Old Charlie stole the handle and
The train it won’t stop going
No way to slow down

He hears the silence howling
Catches angels as they fall
And the all-time winner
Has got him by the balls
He picks up Gideons’ Bible
Open at page one

God - He stole the handle and
The train it won’t stop going
No way to slow down


37 posted on 01/11/2025 10:16:13 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: MtnClimber

JOE BIDEN’S TRIP==

A LARGE NO FLY ZONE THAT PREVENTED HELOS & PLANES FROM DROPPING WATER

“YOU CAN DEPEND ON JOE TO “F THINGS UP”


38 posted on 01/11/2025 11:45:08 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Mean Daddy

SAME FOR THOSE FROM NEVADA

IF I WERE EITHER OF THOSE GOVERNORS——

I WOULD MAKE DAMNED SURE THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW THIS.


39 posted on 01/11/2025 11:47:51 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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