Posted on 01/09/2025 11:17:17 AM PST by janetjanet998
Updates
Palisades And Eaton Fire still zero percent contained Winds picking up again and smoke plumes currently growing
Structures lost:
Palisades Fire - “thousands” announced at today’s presser Eaton fire - 200-500 as of yesterday presser (likely higher)
Forecast: Multiple high wind events
One tonight One around Sunday And another Tuesday (could be very strong)
High wind warnings and red flag warnings re-issued
Wind is supposed to come back, but hasn’t yet.
Tuesday, the day these fires started, was a huge windstorm, of the type that happens every ten to 20 years. Last one was in 2011.
Winds are not going to be like that again, which is good.
Can’t they be just “winds”, not “wind events?”
I know little about controlling fires in the firey regions of California, but controlled burns is my best idea.
I don’t think winds are current almost 100MPH
That was peak a couple of nights ago
In any event
At least one structure appears to be on fire at mount Wilson
I can’t believe they didn’t cover it in fire retardant this morning like in past fires
Looks like the JPL has a natural fire break to protect the eastern flank. The Hahamongna Watershed Park, and the Arroyo Seco.
can’t believe they didn’t cover it in fire retardant this morning like in past
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Edit- looks like they did
Fire looks tame around the towers
Not sure about another areas on campus
Cal Fire web site
Zoom in on the map so that Rancho Cucamonga is on the right near the top, Rancho Santa Margarita or Corona is on the right near the bottom and Palisades fire is at the left.
This gives an overview of the larger LA region.
The fires are in specific regions. LA is not on fire. We don’t need hyperbole and hysteria.
The Palisades fire is most heavily populated and is in LA city and the fire hydrants had no water. Due to neglect and incompetence.
The Eaton fire is in the San Gabriel foothills where there are fires every year and a big one every few years. There are often some houses near the foothills that burn down in these fires. This year there were hurricane like winds on Tuesday when the fire started. Consequently embers flew more and farther and many more homes and businesses have burned this year.
Keep praying and stay rational.
I have been waiting to hear the cause.
The wind speeds were posted in the chryon a few hours ago. They could have been historical in nature, but I think the production staff might have grabbed the highest gusts from the greater area, not necessarily nearest the hottest frontal boundary lines of the fire.
Again, these are ridgeline winds, which behave differently in that they accelerate as they pass over the ridge, creating vortices that have brought down small planes that ventured too close to the phenomenon. Think of how an ocean wave curls under at the break in a counterclockwise motion/circle.
I recall a storm hit the Sierra one winter bringing with it 180 mph straight line winds, measured at the ridgeline. The damage estimate was over 10,000 downed trees.
Winds for today: NWS / LA
* WINDS...North to northeast winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35
mph, except 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 45 mph in the Hollywood
Hills. Winds diminishing Friday afternoon.
But now that all this is happening, it's all frightening.
think we’ve joked at times in the past about CA either falling into the ocean, or perhaps burning down
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Worst case Scenario - an earthquake during a high wind event
Downed Power lines starting fires everywhere in high winds
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
16m
HAPPENING NOW: The Eaton Fire is approaching communication towers which service local media outlets throughout Southern California.
The towers located on top of Mount Wilson are also used by law enforcement.
“It is really important for radio transmissions in Southern California because it is very high and it gives an exceptional viewpoint for the entire Southern California area.”
“Law enforcement, fire and media, television stations and radio use Mount Wilson as a major broadcast point.”
Jan 9, 2025 · 8:33 PM UTC
The 60 mph and more winds stopped early Wednesday morning.
Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
BREAKING: The LA County Sheriff’s Department confirms human remains have been found in a burned down home along Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu. Remains were found as a result of a wellness check. First confirmed fatality of the #PalisadesFire
It is among the most valuable real estate in the world which will be able to be developed from scratch now.
I just went outside and it’s not windy at all.
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WWUS86 KLOX 091827
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URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
1027 AM PST THU JAN 9 2025
...HIGH END RED FLAG WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR MUCH OF LOS ANGELES
AND VENTURA COUNTIES THROUGH 6 PM FRIDAY DUE TO MODERATE TO STRONG
SANTA ANA WINDS AND LOW HUMIDITIES...
...ALL RED FLAG WARNINGS FOR SANTA BARBARA COUNTY HAVE EXPIRED
FOR SANTA BARBARA COUNTY...
.CRITICAL RED FLAG FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE ACROSS MUCH
OF LOS ANGELES AND VENTURA COUNTIES THROUGH FRIDAY DUE TO GUSTY
SANTA ANA WINDS AND LOW HUMIDITIES. WHILE WINDS HAD DIMINISHED
SOME LAST NIGHT, THEY ARE INCREASING AND BECOMING MORE WIDESPREAD
TODAY AND WILL CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THE STRONGEST WINDS
TODAY INTO FRIDAY MORNING WILL BE ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS (INCLUDING
THE SANTA SUSANAS AND SANTA MONICAS) AND SANTA CLARITA VALLEY,
WHERE DAMAGING WIND GUSTS UP TO 65 MPH CAN BE EXPECTED, EXCEPT
ISOLATED GUSTS TO 75 MPH IN THE SAN GABRIELS, WESTERN SANTA
MONICAS, AND SANTA SUSANA MOUNTAINS. THE GUSTY SANTA ANA WINDS
WILL ALSO OVERSPREAD MANY OF THE TYPICAL WIND PRONE COASTS AND
VALLEY AREAS IN LA/VENTURA COUNTIES DURING THIS TIME, WITH GUSTS
IN THE 35 TO 55 MPH RANGE. WITH THE ENHANCE UPPER LEVEL WIND
SUPPORT TODAY INTO THIS EVENING, THERE WILL BE SOME BREEZY
CONDITIONS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE LA BASIN, ESPECIALLY THE WEST
SIDE OF THE LA COAST. HUMIDITY VALUES BETWEEN 7 AND 15 PERCENT
WILL BE COMMON TODAY INTO FRIDAY ACROSS THE RED FLAG WARNING AREA,
WITH POOR OVERNIGHT RECOVERIES UNDER 20 PERCENT IN WINDY AREAS
TONIGHT. THE INCREASED SANTA ANA WINDS TODAY INTO FRIDAY MORNING
WILL BRING HIGH END RED FLAG CONDITIONS TO THE WIND PRONE
MOUNTAINS AND VALLEYS OF LOS ANGELES AND VENTURA COUNTIES, AS WELL
AS THE MALIBU COAST. THE OFFSHORE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH
ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR AN ONSHORE WIND SHIFT
ACROSS MANY OF THE COASTAL AREAS.
WITH THE ENHANCED SANTA ANA WINDS TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING,
THERE WILL BE THE INCREASED RISK OF RAPID FIRE SPREAD AND EXTREME
FIRE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING LONG RANGE SPOTTING, ON EXISTING FIRES
AS WELL AS ANY NEW FIRES.
THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A MODERATE TO STRONG SANTA ANA WIND EVENT
MONDAY INTO TUESDAY.
KFI had already said most planes and copters were grounded over mt Wilson due to the turbulence caused by the fire. The helicopter guy on national tv didn’t seem to know that.
Worst case Scenario - an earthquake during a high wind event
In 1755, Lisbon Portugal experienced what was thought to be a 7.7 earthquake.
About 45 minutes after the quake, the immediate downtown was hit by a tsunami.
Given that the quake happened on All Saints Day, many homes had lit candles which tipped over and started multiple fires which eventually grew into a firestorm.
Best estimates are 20,000 to 30,000 were killed.
Lookner live again
LA Fires: Palisades Fire, Eaton Fire & Others - LIVE Breaking News Coverage
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AN5dfgAyo
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