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Cautious Optimism On The Demise Of The Green Energy Fantasy
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 21 Dec, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 12/23/2024 6:17:46 AM PST by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 12/23/2024 6:17:46 AM PST by MtnClimber
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I am in support into research or trials of new energy forms. I do not support change for the sake of change or as a form of demonizing the current status quo which seems the goal of the left.


2 posted on 12/23/2024 6:17:57 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: StAntKnee; texas booster

Manhattan Contrarian ping


3 posted on 12/23/2024 6:18:39 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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More nukes, less kooks.


4 posted on 12/23/2024 6:21:12 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: MtnClimber

Make no mistake.....It’s a religion for the Godless.


5 posted on 12/23/2024 6:23:41 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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I also support researching renewables to find the best form of each renewable, as well as their limitations of where they work best.

Maybe one day, we will have devices optimized economically for the sun and wind and whatnot. Just not right now and probably not within our lifetimes.


6 posted on 12/23/2024 6:25:38 AM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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“...I am in support into research or trials of new energy forms. I do not support change for the sake of change or as a form of demonizing the current status quo which seems the goal of the left....”

Fully agree, but ^THIS^ is waaaaaayyyyyyy too much common sense and intelligence for communist leftists that’s hellbent on destroying a nation and her people.....


7 posted on 12/23/2024 6:28:01 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: MtnClimber

Did they decommission working nuclear plants, and if so, why? Seems counterintuitive to me, but I also think reliable energy is important


8 posted on 12/23/2024 6:29:40 AM PST by MikeyB806
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Pres Trump should appoint a “Green Energy Czar” 8mmedistley, and on the first day, the czar should fire every last useless green energy job worker, claiming that he had to do so in order to “save th3 planet” because it was costing too much, and using too many natural resources to keep supplying all their paychecks- too many trees were being destroyed in order to keep paying them!

Then when the left complain that they could be paid electronically, explain 5o them that it takes far more energy to do so to run the computers and such.

When they complain again, ask them why they are complaining about saving the erff? Ask them why they oppose the very agenda that they espoused when they held office?


9 posted on 12/23/2024 6:30:48 AM PST by Bob434
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It has been obvious now for many years to the numerate that the fantasy future powered by wind and sun is not going to happen. Sooner or later, reality will inevitably intrude. And yet, the fantasy has gone on for far longer than I ever would have thought possible.

This is our second "go-round" with this fantasy, which was a big deal during the Jimmy Carter debacle. "Oh but NOW we have the technology!!!" Not.

That Second Law of Thermodynamics always rears it's ugly head.

TANSTAAFL

10 posted on 12/23/2024 6:30:55 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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If one people want to “end fossil fuels”, they should be advocating for the wide spread expanded use of them. Unless there is some astonishing break throughs in technology, “green” energy is not going to be able to compete with “fossil fuels” “Green Energy” is neither efficient, or cost effective, enough to complete with other power sources like Coal, Oil and Natural Gas.

The Biden regime tried to use regulation to drive up the price of oil and gas and subsides to try and make “green energy” more affordable. Instead they created a massive cost push inflation world wide.

The only way to end the use of “fossil fuels” is to use them up. Until then they will be the best bang for the buck.


11 posted on 12/23/2024 6:30:57 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: MtnClimber

The problem with warnings about pending green energy failures are like global warming catastrophes. Until they actually happen, nothing will change.


12 posted on 12/23/2024 6:32:13 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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I’d say it wasn’t a failed “experiment”. It was (and continues to be a) successful GRIFT. Many people have become wealthy by stealing citizens’ monies through this criminal fraud.


13 posted on 12/23/2024 6:32:53 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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This is only about forcing productive labor, primarily manufacturing, out of first world countries and into the slave-labor markets of the third world. Profits will increase as environmental laws no longer apply.


14 posted on 12/23/2024 6:37:48 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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I'm hopeful, but ever since that clown in the late 60s/early 70s got rich off predicting a new ice age (which, was definitely going to be here by 1980), con artists have consistently milked the gullible. Al Gore is maybe the best known example.

Even if we can drive a stake through the heart of the "Green" scam, millions of Americans will still clamor for some "cause" to make their sanctimonious, esoteric selves feel superior. And there will be opportunists willing to fill that void, for a fee.

15 posted on 12/23/2024 6:41:43 AM PST by LouAvul (He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. [2 Sam 23:3])
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To: MtnClimber

Will it take twice as long to get back to sane policies as it did to implement the grennsanity? Ignorance is no excuse but here we are. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŽ…๐Ÿ™


16 posted on 12/23/2024 6:42:43 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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Green energy supporters in government are not deluded. Green energy is a weapon in the Left’s arsenal to:

- Launder money back to leftist leadership
- Cause chaos, a requirement for the left’s maintenance of power
- Destroy the middle class


17 posted on 12/23/2024 6:43:35 AM PST by Hazwaste (Socialists are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: Jonty30

“Research” is another word for providing a safe harbor for bad ideas, more apt to produce political force than electrical. Without the discipline of the marketplace, there is no accountability. When you add in the scientific ignorance of almost all politicians, you have a recipe for disaster.

I wish there was a requirement that talking heads on TV, both politicians and media, post their highest level science course completed. Do you suppose all those law degree holders were taking physics - or were they taking easy social science courses to pump up their GPAs to get admitted to already overcrowded law schools? I bet I know the answer.


18 posted on 12/23/2024 6:44:16 AM PST by FirstFlaBn
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I agree with you that research should not come from the government, where the government has an interest in it because of corruption.

However, in principle, I don’t have a problem researching renewables to see what comes of it.


19 posted on 12/23/2024 6:46:33 AM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: MtnClimber

“Climate Change” is the forced global religion being used to enslave the world under one government.


20 posted on 12/23/2024 6:49:21 AM PST by Openurmind
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