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*LOL* Trump is suing Selzer over terrible Iowa poll?
YouTube ^ | 12/15/2024 | Depressed Ginger

Posted on 12/16/2024 3:51:09 PM PST by SmokingJoe

Clear coordinated with Harris Campaign, election interference.
Selzer was clearly paid off to deliberately inflate the Harris figures by a huge amount, which was promptly picked up and amplified by legacy news media.
Great days.

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1 posted on 12/16/2024 3:51:09 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Why?


2 posted on 12/16/2024 3:52:40 PM PST by wny
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To: wny

Why what?


3 posted on 12/16/2024 3:53:40 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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Watch his (Trumps) presser he did today. Selzer won’t be the only one having her a$$ handed to her.


4 posted on 12/16/2024 3:57:22 PM PST by CodeJockey (ATCG)
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To: CodeJockey

Yes.
Watched it.


5 posted on 12/16/2024 3:58:45 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: wny

I doubt that he expects to win but he is putting every one of these sons of witches on notice - be very afraid of your lawfare.


6 posted on 12/16/2024 3:59:45 PM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SmokingJoe
The Establishment media ballyhooed the Selzer fake poll in an attempt to rally the Democrat base. The surge in enthusiasm from the left may have blunted Trump's victory a bit and limited GOP gains in the House and Senate.

If there is any legal recourse for Trump to sue the people who obviously lied to produce the fake Iowa poll, he should pursue it vigorously.
7 posted on 12/16/2024 3:59:53 PM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: wny

Election interference


8 posted on 12/16/2024 4:01:32 PM PST by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: SmokingJoe

Selzer was manipulating foreign political betting markets. Fraud or maybe blackmailed. Maybe INTERPOL should be interested.


9 posted on 12/16/2024 4:04:04 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Dan in Wichita
The Establishment media ballyhooed the Selzer fake poll in an attempt to rally the Democrat base. The surge in enthusiasm from the left may have blunted Trump's victory a bit and limited GOP gains in the House and Senate.

I don't think so. I think it motivated us to vote. Charlie Kirk encouraged the guys to vote. Last minute endorsement by Joe Rogan gave us the last push we needed to win.

If the election was more "normal", maybe more guys would have stayed at home. Harris may have done better. Who knows?

10 posted on 12/16/2024 4:07:10 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Discovery should be interesting. Find out if this just happened to be that one in a million poll that was off by several standard deviations from correct or if the poll was completely fake. It is very hard to hide all of your fingerprints from computer experts looking for deleted files and emails.


11 posted on 12/16/2024 4:08:07 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Now unburdened by the Biden/Harris administration that has been.)
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Remember- Plouffe and others involved in the harris campaign said in an interview after the election their internal polling NEVER showed her in the lead and they were shocked to see these external polls showing her ahead.


12 posted on 12/16/2024 4:09:44 PM PST by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Dan in Wichita

Yes.


13 posted on 12/16/2024 4:10:41 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: KarlInOhio

Harris camp’s own polling never showed VP leading Trump, team ‘surprised’ by reports showing her ahead: top adviser

https://nypost.com/2024/11/27/us-news/harris-camps-own-polling-never-showed-vp-leading-trump-team-surprised-by-reports-showing-her-ahead-sr-adviser/


14 posted on 12/16/2024 4:11:22 PM PST by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: wny

Perhaps a lawsuit will incentivize the fake news to tell the truth, since ethical standards clearly will not.


15 posted on 12/16/2024 4:12:25 PM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Except you are totally WRONG!
Selzer was clearly a suppression “poll” to reduce Trump voter turn out. It just didn't work.
And Joe Rogan had nothing to do with Selzer.
16 posted on 12/16/2024 4:16:36 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: wny
Why?

President Trump is playing the "civilly liable" game that the left used on him.

Alvin Bragg in New York concocted an "election interference" felony "in furtherance of another crime" over a non-disclosure agreement that happened years earlier and was booked by accountants in the Trump organization as routine business expenses.

Trump is now taking that same paradigm and going after the Democrats with it.

Fake poll the weekend before the election? Who's money funded that poll? How was it booked? Was anyone defrauded by fiduciary malpractice to further election interference?

ABC News repeatedly calling candidate Trump a rapist? Was this an attempt at "election interference" by George Stephanopoulos to misuse the resources and reputation of ABC News to further the campaign of Kamal Harris? Could ABC News fire Stephanopoulos or file criminal charges against him for financial loss due to damage to the ABC News brand by his actions?

I'd like to see more of these lawsuits brought against people who used their positions to try to influence the election illegally, by the Bragg Standard.

-PJ

17 posted on 12/16/2024 4:18:25 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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“*LOL* Trump is suing Selzer over terrible Iowa poll?”

nope ... trump is suing selzer and the Des Moines Register for knowingly publishing a deliberately fraudulent poll as a in an attempt to interfere with an election ... likewise trump is suing 60 minutes for their faked kamala interview for the same reason ... he’s also got a lawsuit against bob woodward for deliberately misquoting him in a taped interview AND illegal selling the tapes in contraindication of trump’s interview contract ...


18 posted on 12/16/2024 4:18:26 PM PST by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Dan in Wichita
Lot of short memories around here.

That sham poll was released just six weeks ago, the Saturday before the election. Trump had all the momentum, coming off his massive MSG rally in New York City the week before.

Then comes the Iowa poll from the "never wrong", "highly respected pollster" Ann Selzer showing Kamala ahead by 3-4 points, in IOWA!

The Kamala supporters were literally doing cartwheels and happy dances all that weekend. If she was ahead in Iowa, why it would surely be a total blowout nationwide. The entire Rust Belt would belong to Kamala!

Meanwhile, the folks here on Free Republic were despondent. All was lost! If Trump couldn't even win in Iowa, where could he win? It was so depressing around here that I had to logoff and take a long walk outside. I ended up listening to at least two complete David Bowie albums, "Hunky Dory" and "Man Who Sold The World" if I remember correctly in order to get my head cleared of all the negativity surrounding this totally bogus poll.

This was all just six weeks ago!

Trump went on to win Iowa by 13 points just three days later and the presidency in an electoral blowout as well as the popular vote.

But yes, the momentum was blunted as you say. Could have cost us a few congressional seats as many Trump supporters might have stayed home, figuring that if Trump couldn't even win in Iowa, why bother?

This Ann Selzer woman might not have been a fan of Trump but up to that point, she was a very accurate pollster. Which is why she was able to cause such a ruckus with that bogus poll.

Ann Selzer tossed away her reputation and her career in order to give Kamala a last-minute boost. It wasn't enough in the end but she needs to be held to account from a legal standpoint. Retiring in disgrace is not enough.

19 posted on 12/16/2024 4:20:32 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: KarlInOhio
Harris campaign was paying everybody. Turns out they even paid Oprah Winfrey and Al Sharpton to do interviews.
No surprise if they paid Selzer too.
20 posted on 12/16/2024 4:21:44 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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