Posted on 11/21/2024 11:44:47 AM PST by MtnClimber
“…the claim that so many people from so many agencies…”
That prompts the question Well what exactly ARE they doing? They are apparently poking the bear and think him helpless to retaliate. Problem is retaliation needn’t necessarily involve nukes. He could sink a couple of carriers. Or all of them What would we do in that case go nuclear? Could we do that any more the him? The nuclear deterrent may yet be in force and force exchanges that shatter each nations conventional stuff conventionally. We’re effing around and one way or another we’re gonna find out…
Putin launched a European invasion and ran into more resistance than he anticipated, a military depleting 3 years of it, I doubt that he now wants to go to war against America and the rest of Europe by trying to sink some American aircraft carriers.
Attacking American aircraft carriers would of course be a formal declaration of war against all NATO forces.
They’re not going to be able to stop Trump taking office. They’re trying to make the biggest possible mess for him to deal with.
With these efforts having failed, what’s left is to escalate the weaponry that the U.S. and various NATO partners supply to Ukraine to provoke a nuclear response from Russia. Fearing that Trump would fulfill campaign promises to dismantle the “woke” Deep State, the New World Order military/industrial/intelligence complex prefers to risk nuclear war rather than allow Trump to return to the White House.
Even a limited Russian nuclear response would hamper Trump’s ability to end the war in Ukraine quickly after his inauguration. Should a Russian nuclear response lead to a global thermonuclear war, the World Economic Forum’s depopulation goals would only be achieved much sooner than anticipated.
“Attacking American aircraft carriers would of course be a formal declaration of war against all NATO forces.”
You mean that would be “poking the bear”?
Putin is talking NOW as if he thinks WE are formally waging war against HIM.
We are backing up a thug to some corner. I don’t think the thug is going to permit the humiliation. We are saying to him “You’re our bitch. We’re going to assist your enemies right into your house and feck off if you don’t like it.” Why we werent so dismissive of the Russians in 1955 or 65 or 75 I can’t think but we’re doing it now. Maybe he can hang on until the Biden crazies are out but the Biden crazies may not permit that.
Thinking he is impotent because he can’t fire the nukes may be a monster mistake. If the nuclear deterrent is no longer operative as seems to be the case than there WILL be war in my view because the Russians can’t think of themselves as anybody’s bitch. Wars get started for stupid reasons and that’s as good a stupid reason as the best of them
Not poking anyone, it would be a formal declaration of war, a Pearl Harbor attack.
Don’t confuse Russia supplying weapons and clandestine troops to kill Americans in Korea and Vietnam with them launching a peacetime sneak attack on American carrier groups.
I agree with you about Joe Biden.
I believe him to be an evil man.
My understanding is sociopathic narcissists almost never commit suicide.
Perhaps a child can see it because it is such an oversimplified way of seeing reality.
It is sort of like the communists, who see only oppressed and oppressors.
In my opinion, the world is much more complicated. Certainly there are people who wish to do bad things. Mostly, it is because they have weird and often false assumptions about the nature of reality.
Denying the existence of God is such an assumption.
Baloney. Putin is trying to escalate, thinking he can get away with it now. What defenders do against the escalation of an agressor is not escalation.
People today seem to view making it possible to escalate a war against Russia on her own homeland as just another proxy thing like we’ve both been doing since the last half of the last century. This is a twenty first century way of thinking . Inguess I’m just behind the times. To my mind in this era of high tech conventional war drone swarms and hypersonic missile swarms it a stupid and dangerous way of thinking.
Russia invaded its border neighbor to take it over, of course the war is going to spread to the invader’s side of that border, it isn’t a safe space where supplies and troops are safe until needed.
Russia is invading, they aren’t being attacked by someone trying to take them over.
Nope. The West started it by giving long range missiles to Ukraine. Russia has had them all along; had Putin wanted to, he could have used them to destroy Ukraine long ago.
“Nope. The West started it by giving long range missiles to Ukraine. “
The west only gave Ukraine the means to help equal the playing field, equal the response to Putin’s agression. Putin does not have some “right” to invade Ukraine and then call any equal response from Ukraine an “escalation”. The ONLY “escalation” has been the entire Russian invasion.
“Russia is invading, they aren’t being attacked by someone trying to take them over.“
And what would have happened if we invaded Cuba back in the day?
Morality doesn’t matter here. It never has in this sphere. The only thing that ever mattered here was “What do we think The Russians are gonna do”? “How hard can we push them to get what we want without making them go ballistic”? It was pretty much the same for the Russians “What can we get away with before the Americans redline?” ANYTHING the Russians were pushing for went against peace and freedom but we had to respect all those nukes and we had to respect redlines. So when did THE RUSSIANS become LOLthe russiansLOL? We’re attacking them in their own country. They see that as a redline. And now, ironically, it isn’t strictly nukes we have to worry about they can now attack conventional targets with conventional explosives that are hard or impossible to stop. Yeah we can escalate and they can escalate and then we can escalate….I’d counsel don’t push people past their redline unless you think they’re full of shit or you want to fight.
The Communist were trying to conquer the world, a fight they haven’t abandoned.
Cuba had recently fallen to the international communist, movement was allied with Communist Russia and was leading communist revolutions in this part of the world while the nuclear communists were stationing nuclear weapons in
Cuba in their war to conquer the entire world.
Communist Russia already held slave many of the nations of Europe and the communists had conquered China and North Korea, and North Vietnam and were fighting wars and revolutions in Indochina and Latin America, many American, European, Latin American, Asian and UN troops had already died in just the explosive global wars of the communists of just the previous 16 or 18 years.
Cuba wasn’t Ukraine and the United States wasn’t Russia and this hemisphere was not Europe where World Wars start and when Europe burns, the whole world burns.
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