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"I told you this would be fun as you never perform due diligence and research your sources."

Still not reading what's right in front of you.

Nothing here is mine. You clearly did not click the LibriVox link.

"evidently seeking our comments on your proud discovery"

I'm always happy to see new things about the Founders and you cannot make me apologize for that. That is the down side of open source, anybody can get things out there. It was bound to happen, my not knowing anything about many of these books or topics.

Realistically, my thoughts in making that comment was in reference to George Livermore's book "An Historical Research Respecting the Opinions of the Founders of the Republic on Negroes" https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4172958/posts

Which I recalled that the Lincoln hate club brought to over 300 replies, mostly and quite humorously more about the civil war and very little about the Founders themselves. I've noticed quite the track record with you. So I suspect one or two of the other (audio) books I have incoming will be equally upsetting for you once they complete since it does not align with your 1619 Project agenda.

"Seeing how thoroughly demolished the Leben Scam has proven"

Thanks to research US7 provided, I have no reason to bring this specific book up again.

"Somehow, your due diligence and arduous research missed that."

The biggest thing that I missed was that the Abraham Lincoln hate club was also simultaneously the Jefferson hate club. A mistake I will not make again in the future.

But its not like you publish your enemies list. So here we are. Not much to research. It would've been reasonable to assume Lincoln was the only target. And not the entirety of the Founding Fathers.

You are definitely right. Thomas Jefferson, like Abraham Lincoln, was a leader of the civil rights movement and a lifelong abolitionist. That explains why legions of black activists raise statues in his honor, and black authors write glowing biographies about him. Indeed, both have been inducted into the African American Hall of Fame for their efforts on behalf of the black man.

You were also indubitably correct that I did not listen to the LibriVox recording. However, since I quoted significantly from the book, you may have taken a hint that I have a print version of the book.

When the great William J. Clinton gave his first speech as President, he recalled his promise of a modest middle class tax cut. He bit his lip and continued, I tried. I tried as hard as I've ever tried in my life. But I just couldn't. It echoed memories of Thomas Jefferson's great speech to his slaves. Tom recalled his promises of abolition, he bit his lip, and continued, I tried. I tried as hard as I've ever tried in my life. But I just couldn't. And Jupiter and Sally and the other slaves understood, and they went back to work singing a cheerful tune, and with a dance in their step, because they knew Massa had really, really tried.

I trust you will continue your campaign to immaculate the Founders.

Indeed, Barton was only wrong about Lemen. I do appreciate your keen analysis. On all else Barton was correct, Jenkinson dissenting:

Jefferson was, in fact, an apartheidist. He spent countless hours trying to figure out how slaves could be freed and then immediately repatriated in their native Africa. He was an early subscriber to the repatriation societies in Liberia (the place of the freed) and Sierra Leon. He once tried to calculate how many ships it would take to deport all of the black people of the United States to Africa or perhaps an island in the Caribbean, carefully making allowances for the high birth rate among American slaves. What he discovered was discouraging: the black population was already too large ever to be successfully deported. This does not sound like the social equality that Barton believes characterized Jefferson's thinking about race.

Barton's book survived about two months after the Jenkinson review was published. And then the publisher felt the need to stop printing it and to pull it off the shelves of book stores. But clearly, Jenkinson was merely a hater; a hater of Jefferson, and a hater of all small, furry animals.

ProgressingAmerica at 42: The problem with progressives is their aggressive use of language. 99% of the book is very likely accurate, and James Lemen is *THE* one singular item that is found to be fraudulent.

For witnesses in court, the standard is, falsus in uno falsus in omnibus.

In stating your opinion that "99% of the [Barton] book is very likely accurate," with the parts about Lemen being the one singular exception, did you reach this conclusion with, or without, having actually read the book?

Do you frequiently vouch for the veracity of 99% of a book that you have not read?