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1 posted on 11/08/2024 7:45:59 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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Stupid story

OF COURSE his demands haven’t changed. That is how negotiations work. Unless you are the stupid people running the US Government under Biden or Obama, you don’t weaken your position to get the other side to the table.


2 posted on 11/08/2024 7:48:16 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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Trump is the best shot.


3 posted on 11/08/2024 7:50:46 AM PST by dhs12345
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OIP-23
4 posted on 11/08/2024 7:53:33 AM PST by ANKE69 (โœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฒ Let's MAGA)
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Putin will sweeten the pot if he can get something in return. Such as an end to the sanctions, the property confiscations, and the false flagging.


7 posted on 11/08/2024 8:04:55 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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Putin on June 14 set out his terms for an end to the war: Ukraine would have to drop its NATO ambitions and withdraw all of its troops from all of the territory of four regions claimed by Russia.

And, as soon as Trump announces he won't be giving anymore military funding to Ukraine, that is exactly what will happen.

Zelensky and his cronies will be allowed to live and escape to their mansions.

10 posted on 11/08/2024 8:12:46 AM PST by Kazan
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I’m not surprised. Russia is winning.


11 posted on 11/08/2024 8:15:02 AM PST by McGruff (Making America Great Again)
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Just split it at the Dnieper and call it a day.


14 posted on 11/08/2024 8:34:33 AM PST by montag813
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You don’t start negotiations by givng stuff away. You start at your position and then negotiate.

This is more stupid posted by you, of course.


15 posted on 11/08/2024 8:35:55 AM PST by dforest
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Trump Will negotiate with Putin.
Zelensky will just be a hood ornament.


16 posted on 11/08/2024 8:36:53 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (โ€œLess propaganda would be appreciated.โ€ JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Trump talks and Putin listens. End of.


17 posted on 11/08/2024 8:51:18 AM PST by rrrod (6)
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Kursk Counter-Offensive 3.0 | 15k Ukrainian Soldiers Reportedly Surrounded Near Kupyansk

Massive Russian Advance At Pokrovsk Front l Russian Advance North Of Kurakhove

20 posted on 11/08/2024 9:03:18 AM PST by Kazan
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His demands from the first have been honoring the electorate in Donbas. They voted to join Russia and the UK signed the Minsk agreement to that effect. Then, the PedoPres jumped in and with endless taxpayer $$ (with a kickback) he persuaded Zylynskyy to fight.
Stupid. Give Russia what they deserve and tell UK to F off.


22 posted on 11/08/2024 9:14:41 AM PST by bobbo666
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26 posted on 11/08/2024 9:46:18 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (๐Ÿฆ… MAGADONIAN โš”๏ธ )
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I wonder if Trump is able to end the war before he is even in office?

After more than a million dead and a trillion of dollars spent, I think it’s time.


28 posted on 11/08/2024 10:16:10 AM PST by bosco24
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Putin's massive and expensive rebuilding of Russian nuclear forces was aimed directly at the US and the West. Billions of dollars were also devoted to rearming and reorganizing Russia's conventional forces in order to recover Russian control over her immediate neighbors. Russia also abrogated key Cold War treaties that had improved the security of both Russia and the West.

As always, Putin's supporters insist that such measures were necessary to counter external threats by NATO and the West. Yet the truth of the matter was that after the end of the Cold War, the US and NATO had cut back their militaries drastically in favor of social spending. It was Russia's aggression and Putin's goal to recover Soviet era influence that inspired alarm in the US and other NATO countries. Most Russians know this but pretend not to.

Putin is of course rational in his means but is nevertheless an idiot as to his goals. With vast natural resources, an educated populace, and a unique culture that has looked west since the era of Peter the Great, Russia would have easily prospered and developed into a normal nation.

Putin though is a thug who has stolen billions and cemented himself into power. He falsely claims that there are foreign security threats to justify his lifetime rule, massive military spending, and aggression against Russia's neighbors. That is why Putin matters. His political opponents -- many now killed by his assassins -- had urged peace and good relations with the West.

A clever gangster but a dope as to military strategy, Putin cooked up his Ukraine invasion plan with a close set of compliant advisers. Experienced Russian military men were excluded. The result was a fiasco of an invasion that failed, with over half a million Russian casualties, and NATO rearming with two new members close to Russia.

Putin's continuing war on Ukraine now endangers his hold on power and Russia's economic stability. In strategic terms, Russia has lost because NATO has been revitalized and Russia lacks the military and economic capacity to occupy and subdue Ukraine in a successful and profitable way.

If Trump puts the screws to Russia with enhanced sanctions, Russia's economy will collapse and Putin will be ousted or killed. Will the fearful and ever greedy Putin instead take a deal? We shall see.

80 posted on 11/22/2024 3:37:38 PM PST by Rockingham
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