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To: Kazan
Ukraine NEVER INTENDED TO ABIDE BY THE MINSK ACCORDS.

It was always a ruse to allow a NATO military buildup in Ukraine and to launch an offensive in Donetsk and Lugansk.

Even if true, of which you have no proof, Ukraine had every right to try to recover Donetsk and Luhansk. It is the Russians who had no right to be there. There would have been no need for the accords in the first place if Russia had not first violated its agreements with Ukrainian and invaded. Additionally, you keep failing to acknowledge that Russia itself violated the accords.

Angela Merkle and François Hollande have both admitted it.

No, they just stated that giving Ukraine the time to rearm was the result, not the intention, of the accords. The later is just Russian projection.

85 posted on 11/07/2024 11:52:32 AM PST by Petrosius
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As has been pointed out before:

It doesn’t matter what the resolution is in Ukraine. Russia may install a total puppet govt, place borders around the country annexing all the oblasts that voted to join Russia, have all the US and UK intelligence agents in Kiev killed — and then after all this is imposed, withdraw their troops — or rather just stop destroying the Ukraine power stations.

The puppet govt would announce that Russia has reduced its troop count in the Donbas and Kherson (since no longer needed) and the western media will explode with announcements of victory.

Point being so many govts of Europe are so heavily invested in things that regardless of what actually happens, victory will be declared. And the relevant FR faction will agree with them and say they were right all along.


86 posted on 11/07/2024 11:59:18 AM PST by Owen
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To: Petrosius
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202212/1281708.shtml

In an interview with the German newspaper Die Zeit last week, former German chancellor Angela Merkel revealed the West's real intention behind its negotiation with Russia and Ukraine to promote a ceasefire in 2014. She admitted the Minsk agreements were an "attempt to give Ukraine time" and that Kiev had used it "to become stronger."

87 posted on 11/07/2024 1:53:18 PM PST by Kazan
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