Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: marcusmaximus

I would suggest that it would be okay to let Russia have Donbass and some of the other heavily ethnic Russia areas, IF they agreed to take future Russian deportees from Ukraine without argument.
Without that agreement, in another 10 years Russia could be invading new border regions in Ukraine again claiming they are Russian anyway.

The hardliners would hate this compromise, because not returning to the 2019 lines is like rewarding the Russian aggression. While I would never admit this at the negotiating table, I actually agree that you have to deal with the reality on the ground today. How many more thousands and thousands of people have to be killed because of where a border is drawn?


3 posted on 11/07/2024 4:50:36 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: z3n

The hardliners would hate this compromise, because not returning to the 2019 lines is like rewarding the Russian aggression. While I would never admit this at the negotiating table, I actually agree that you have to deal with the reality on the ground today. How many more thousands and thousands of people have to be killed because of where a border is drawn?


I agree. The war has been both costly in blood and treasure. Neither side is really “winning”. Time to compromise.


7 posted on 11/07/2024 4:58:41 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (My opinions are the rusult of 80 years of life, you may not like them but who cares.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

To: z3n

Those area are not “heavy” Russian ethnic areas - that they are is Russian propaganda.

Ukraine will never settle on those terns.

The border is already drawn - Russia just needs to withdraw behind them else they will rearm and come back for more, as well as such a proposal rewards Russian invasion of sovereign counties on an pretext they make up.


8 posted on 11/07/2024 5:01:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

To: z3n

Trump will broker a deal that works for both sides. He will use his leverage on Zelensky to force him to the table and offer Putin a face saving exit. Ukraine will have to concede territory in exchange for security guarantees (vice NATO membership) and economic aid to rebuild the country.

The senseless killing and destruction must end. Ukraine should be a neutral country. NATO expansion has been a disaster.


13 posted on 11/07/2024 5:07:51 AM PST by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

To: z3n

That is a good and fair proposal. Ukraine will HAVE to give up the Donbass AND Crimea territories, plain and simple.

But, a big but, Russia MUST help rebuild the damage they did to Ukraine infrastructure. And perhaps even “pay” Ukraine $300 billion for annexing the Donbass.

Zelinsky will not like the idea of giving up ANY territory. But he will have to take the deal else Trump will not give Ukraine any aid and eventually Russia will take ALL of Ukraine territory.

A half loaf is better than none. Russia clearly has the advantage (because they are right next door to Ukraine). In many ways, Russia was forced to implement the special operation on Ukraine because of the needless 2014 coup (Orange Revolution) supported and planned by the evil filthy homosexual Obama regime. They provoked the Russians to act, and now here we are.

Trump, Putin and Zeliskyy will make a deal. And then all three will be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.


15 posted on 11/07/2024 5:12:11 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

To: z3n

“I would suggest that it would be okay to let Russia have Donbass”

We have no right to impose that condition on Ukraine.


54 posted on 11/07/2024 6:34:10 AM PST by Wuli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson