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To: antidemoncrat
Your memory is...subpar. The truth was pointed out to you just a few days ago and already you have 'forgotten'.

To: antidemoncrat

“If I remember right, at one time Ukraine had nuclear weapons and the US and Russia talked them into giving them up “

No... that is the pop culture story. But Ukraine never had any. Some Soviet nukes, controlled by Moscow physically existed there when the USSR ended. But they were never owned, commanded or operated by Ukraine. They were removed rather than allowing them to get handed over to Kiev. Today is probably why.

The Ukrainian military never had a commander of nuclear forces. Kiev had zero operational control because they did not own them. And that security guarantee was for non-aligned military status.

But in any case, those agreements were dead when the nazi coup took over the Ukrainian government. The Uke government ended in violent over throw, and now a new one is there. They don’t inherit everything the old government had.

16 posted on 10/17/2024, 11:45:11 AM by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. ) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

8 posted on 10/21/2024 6:37:29 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

From NPR:
“Three decades ago, the newly independent country of Ukraine was briefly the third-largest nuclear power in the world.

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.

In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine’s security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.

Now, that agreement is front and center again.”

Gee, I don’t know who to believe you or NPR ... I know, NPR


23 posted on 10/21/2024 1:23:48 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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