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Zelensky 'tells NATO - let us join, or we'll get NUKES': Ukrainian leader 'issues shock ultimatum - and says his proposal was backed by TRUMP'
Daily Mail ^ | 10/17/2024 | Taryn Pedler

Posted on 10/17/2024 9:08:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: freeandfreezing

You are some sort of expert on nuclear arms and reprogramming them? Or is this just something you made up in your head? Oh my.

Even without this point, the rest of the points I outlined are reason enough. I noticed you did not address those.


41 posted on 10/17/2024 11:39:03 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: LVS1
Ukraine should seek neutrality, like Switzerland, it could enjoy the same business arrangement with the EU and also with Russia, with the natural resources in that region its economy would flourish.

Zelensky offered; Putin rejected.

42 posted on 10/17/2024 11:40:02 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: M Kehoe

As my brother unfortunately once reminded me, the nuclear bomb is 1940’s technology! The problem is refining the uranium, not the technology.


43 posted on 10/17/2024 11:42:21 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Your proof for this outlandish claim?

Yes, initially it was on the table and the war wlyld have been averted, but then along came Boris.


44 posted on 10/17/2024 11:44:27 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: marcusmaximus
NATO to let his country join the group OR it will get nuclear weapons

Who exactly is going to give Ukraine the nukes?

45 posted on 10/17/2024 11:48:59 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: freeandfreezing

You really buy into Zelensky’s delusions of grandeur? Getting desperate?

Look at how his own military leaders reacted to his delusional “Victory Plan” presention to the Rada yesterday:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4271617/posts?page=15#15


46 posted on 10/17/2024 11:50:12 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Yeah right cokehead.


47 posted on 10/17/2024 11:54:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: marcusmaximus

Tell zero IQ Marcus to stop posting his spam trash.


48 posted on 10/17/2024 11:56:52 AM PDT by ANKE69 (✌️🇺🇲)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

It’s plausible that the Ukraine might be capable of throwing together a few functional devices but as a practical matter they would probably need help from the likes of the US, France, Pakistan or the UK.

It’s kind of crazy because the Ukraines use of a nuke against Russia would be the end of the Ukraine

It’s time to cut Zelensky off.

Anyone who uses NATO membership and the use of nuclear weapons in the same sentence is a dangerous loose cannon that needs to be rolled off the deck into the deepest water we can find.

I seriously doubt that Trump approved of anything Zelensky proposed or that Trump even listened to any proposal from Zelensky at all.

It also suggests that Zelensky has too short of a memory of what happens when people try to make false statements about a discussion between Trump and Zelensky.


49 posted on 10/17/2024 11:57:53 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: antidemoncrat

No, they r d not squirrel any away. We were all over it at the time. See my previous posts today on this subject. . There were still a few grownups in charge at the time who understood the dangers.


50 posted on 10/17/2024 12:00:51 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: rdcbn1

We have kept close tabs on Ukraine since forever. We had Americans embedded in their halls of power calling the shots ever since 2014 (as in actually physically present in their ministries) since 2014. It’# guranteed we would know whether were they are pursuing nuclear weapons. Russia knows this, the Chinese knows these s, the EU knows this, the leaders of the whole world know this.

Ergo, if they are progressing toward nuclear weapons at the rate Zelenzky claims (only two weeks away), we would not like not know about it, we’d be blessing it. As crazy and desperate as the administration now in power is, all indications they would not go THAT far.

It smells to me like a silly bluff and a campaign talking point for the Dims (”See? We told you Trump would bring him n nuclearvwar!’


51 posted on 10/17/2024 12:15:45 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: rdcbn1

We have kept close tabs on Ukraine since forever. We had Americans embedded in their halls of power calling the shots ever since 2014 (as in actually physically present in their ministries since 2014). It’s guaranteed we would know whether they were pursuing nuclear weapons. Russia knows this, the Chinese know this, the EU knows this, the leaders of the whole world know this.

Ergo, if they are progressing toward nuclear weapons at the rate Zelensky claims (only two weeks away), we would not only know about it, we’d be blessing it. As crazy and desperate as the administration now in power is, all indications they would not go THAT far.

It smells to me like a silly bluff and a campaign talking point for the Dims (”See? We told you Trump would bring nuclear war!”)


52 posted on 10/17/2024 12:21:10 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
Your proof for this outlandish claim?

This is not some sort of secret. It was widely reported:

[Reuters] Exclusive: As war began, Putin rejected a Ukraine peace deal recommended by aide

[The National Interest] Ukraine Won't Join NATO, President Zelenskyy Says

Yes, initially it was on the table and the war wlyld have been averted, but then along came Boris.

Another Kremlin myth. Negotiations continued after Johnson's visit. They were called of, not by Ukraine, but by Russia. This was because of the revelations of the Bucha massacre. In any case, Russia was making unreasonable demands that no Ukrainian government would have accepted. Even now Russia is demanding that Ukraine withdraw from all of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzia before they will negotiate.

53 posted on 10/17/2024 12:27:22 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: rdcbn1
It’s plausible that the Ukraine might be capable of throwing together a few functional devices but as a practical matter they would probably need help from the likes of the US, France, Pakistan or the UK.

Are you forgetting that there were many Ukrainian scientists and engineers in the Soviet nuclear program?

54 posted on 10/17/2024 12:29:48 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: rdcbn1

Sorry about the weird double post with typos! Oops!

I can’t wait to see Trump’s reaction to this slander. He was already disgruntled at Zelensky campaigning for the Dims, but this is truly beyond the pale.

Zelensky wants Trump to lose SO BAD!


55 posted on 10/17/2024 12:31:10 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Petrosius

Did you actually read?????


56 posted on 10/17/2024 12:45:07 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

“...and says his proposal was backed by TRUMP’”

This has been known to some for a long time.

It’s how Trump can assure that the war will stop within 24 hr.s


57 posted on 10/17/2024 12:55:41 PM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: marcusmaximus
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58 posted on 10/17/2024 1:34:02 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Justa

You actually believe this? Did you watch Trump’s 2019 press conference with Zelensky when he told him to “go talk to Putin” (as in abide by Mink II as he was overwhelmingly elected go do)?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1RCowmzTToY


59 posted on 10/17/2024 1:46:00 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Let’s see, the last time I noted your pushing an
article from the NYSlimes wass on 10/12 article supporting Senator Tester.


60 posted on 10/17/2024 2:18:41 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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