Posted on 09/25/2024 5:57:26 AM PDT by RandFan
A Houston bankruptcy judge ruled on Tuesday that assets from the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’s Infowars empire can be auctioned off to help pay families of the Sandy Hook mass shooting victims the defamation awards he owes them.
The auction, set for mid-November, will include Infowars’ website, social media accounts, broadcasting equipment, product trademarks and inventory owned by Free Speech Systems, Infowars’ parent company.
Mr. Jones’s fate as a broadcaster most likely depends on who buys his business. Though the Infowars name and assets are potentially of interest to a range of entities on the far right, under the terms of the sale anyone can bid.
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In terms of damage to everyone in the nation, what they do is far worse. Real injury to real people caused by news-liars misleading the public are way worse than anything that happened to these Sandyhook families.
But yeah, the courts only look at things through the lens of their own methodology, and a general injury to everyone on the account of lies spread by news-liars, well that's just not actionable according to their rules.
DiogenesLamp wrote: “It’s been my experience that a *LOT* of conservative talk show hosts sold a bunch of crap that most people don’t need and didn’t need.”
“And what makes you think Alex Jones knew they were false? I don’t watch him, but over the years i’ve seen a lot of commentary about other stuff he’s said, and the consensus is he gets it right most of the time.”
“That stuff about “turning the frogs gay”? That stuff is true. Stuff we are leaching into the water is indeed turning frogs “gay” and also causing mutations.”
Gay frogs? Jones claimed that a pentagon developed bomb was turning frogs gay.
Snapple is a legitimate product. So is ID lock. You can’t say as much for most of Jones products like ‘Brain Force’, Survival Shield, and DNA Force to name a few.
The only consensus that Jones gets it right most of the time is among those defenders who think Jones is a hero.
Here’s a few of Jones’ claims.
-Jones claims Gates is a front for IBM.
- IBM was set up as a eugenics trust with “the expressed mission of creating a world-wide race-based system and funded Adolf Hitler.”
-Jones claimed Obama was using secret weapons to control the -Jones claimed radioactive isotopes to jet fuel to create and steer groups of tornados.
-InfoWars has made suggesting that the government and High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), employed electromagnetic waves to create major weather events like hurricane sandy
-Lady Gaga’ halftime performance at the superbowl was a cover for a satanic rite.
-Hillory Clinton ran a child sex ring out of a DC pizza parlor.
-Jones once posted a video that Hillory had personally murdered children.
-The government is complicit in countless terrorist and lone gunman attacks.
-Jones is considered by some as the founding father of the 9/11 Truther Movement. “They need this as a pretext to bring you and your family martial law.” Jones has been pushing that the U.S. government was behind the attacks for over 15 years.
-Alex Jones claimed the Boston Marathon bombing was an inside job.
-Jones has also said Jared Loughner, who killed six people and seriously wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in 2011, was a staged mind control operation.
-Jones claimed the Brussels attacks and the Pulse shooting in Orlando were false flag operations.
-Jones has claimed that the government allowed radical Islamists into the country so they “can attack us and then have our freedoms taken.”
-Glen Beck is a CIA operative.
-Jones’ claimed that the government is using chemicals in order to turn people gay, using a mysterious “gay bomb” devised by the Pentagon.
So I did an online search of Wolfgang Halbig and as it turns out, he has all the right enemies in the corporate media and has been arrested by law enforcement. It just reinforces my opinion.
Mass media are not “just loudmouths” if they have millions of followers and are aware their continued lies are inciting violence.
Trump can and should sue the media for defamation damages and the attempted assassinations. Just as the damages against Jones were proven in court, he can do the same
Apart from that, a lot of the things you claim Jones said, some are actually plausible. I had a Dr Friend that firmly believed in that HAARP claim, and he has believed it since the 1990s, which i'm pretty sure was before Jones said anything about it.
The Pizza Gate thing is something I kept up with at the time, and there is a *LOT* of evidence to indicate something very bad is going on in and around Comet Pizza in Washington DC. I've watched videos produced by Comet Pizza that were absolutely incriminating. They used to be on youtube before the controversy, and then they were taken down.
And that Hillary had personally murdered children? If you've kept up with all the doings of that evil Nazi bitch, the thought of her murdering children (apart from abortion) is certainly plausible.
But all of this stuff you mention undermines the claim that Jones should be taken seriously. He's an entertainer, and his audience would seem to be conspiracy kooks.
No he can't, and you ought to know that just as well as I do. The court system will bend over backwards to hurt Trump, but it will do absolutely nothing to help him.
And according to Desert Rhino, nothing was proven in court. The judge just imposed guilt and ordered the jury to return damages.
I have long ago come to the realization that "proven in court" doesn't mean anything when you have idiot/corrupt hack courts rendering verdicts, such as the conviction of Derick Chauvin for "murdering" George Floyd, even though Floyd died of a drug overdose.
The courts are crap.
DiogenesLamp wrote: “But all of this stuff you mention undermines the claim that Jones should be taken seriously. He’s an entertainer, and his audience would seem to be conspiracy kooks.”
On that, we can agree.
I’ve not listened to Jones. I compiled that list when I was having the same argument with another freeper.
There were multiple cases in multiple states that took years and every jury agreed Jones was liable after seeing the evidence.
You are saying everyone on every jury were also deep state actors?
I think this verdict is a serious miscarriage of Justice and it's intent isn't to get "Justice", it is to silence and punish Jones for saying things they don't like.
I think i've said my piece on the matter.
Maybe Tucker can buy it.
They pinned him down with patently unfair trials.
I see him as a detestable Deep State asset, but often a source of good information (which is how such things work).
What "evidence" is gonna make sense out of a billion dollar verdict?
The verdict alone tells us the matter was not taken seriously whether it be by one or several juries.
You are saying everyone on every jury were also deep state actors?
I wouldn't say "actors", but "pawns" better describes what they are. There is this thing called the "Asch Conformity experiment" which revealed that 80% of the people will believe something if they think the majority believes it.
There are a lot of "sheep" out there that simply follow the leader.
A billion dollars is like a trillion dollars. People talking about such things didn't arrive at a figure based on careful thought and computation. They just pulled it out of their @$$.
There was plenty of consideration and argument in court over the amount of damages. The jury also had to be unanimous to award that much.
Several of the jury made statements to the media how the dollar amount was determined.
In my life I have been much accustomed to situations where everybody thinks the same thing, and everybody is wrong.
I have zero faith in the rationality of others, especially when they are stampeded into a direction by manipulators.
A billion dollars is more than the vast majority of families could earn in a 100 lifetimes.
It is an irrational award, and even if they have what they think are good reasons, they are wrong. They are idiots who do not grasp the enormity of a damage award for a relatively minuscule offense.
I am reminded of a case against Ralph's grocery store chain some many years ago in which some clerks were awarded 26 million because one of their supervisors made occasional inappropriate comments to them.
The store was excessively punished for the behavior of one of their hired managers, and his offenses weren't even that severe.
26 million immediately told me the people on the jury were imbeciles who should never have been allowed to handle such a case.
And this happens a lot in America. We have too many idiots who do not grasp money or justice.
I did not say that, nor do I believe that. Sandy Hook was just an excuse that our corruptocrats used to shut down someone who was making them very uncomfortable.
Regarding Sandy Hook, though, a nation that will award $1 billion in damages for what AJ was accused of is a nation that's in its death throes.
The Duke wrote: “I did not say that, nor do I believe that. Sandy Hook was just an excuse that our corruptocrats used to shut down someone who was making them very uncomfortable.”
Be sure and tell those who lost sons and daughters at Sandy Hook that it was just an ‘excuse’.
You're the one who drifted from reality when you said: "This is like punishing someone for slapping you by shooting them in the stomach."
I simply responded that depending upon the circumstances, if you slapped my wife or me, I just might kill you.
What he is alleged to have done was to allow people to claim the Sandy Hook shooting was staged.
He did more than just "allow" people to defame those families, he did it himself. I don't know about you, but my reputation is worth quite a bit to me. I would imagine those families felt the same, and were able to show those damages in court. It's called "self respect." And, if you aren't up to the task of fighting for your own reputation, then you have none.
No harm has come to any of these people from Alex Jones. All he may have done was hurt their feelings.
And, how would you know this? Were you sitting in the courtroom listening to testimony and examining evidence? Fraud can be a serious accusation, and can cost people their reputation in the job market and business community, not to mention their social lives. Jones decided to attack the reputations of private citizens from his bully pulpit just to make a few bucks, and he got what was coming to him.
You make it sound like Alex Jones killed those children rather than hurting some peoples' feelings. If we're going to be a country that awards $1 billion for hurt feelings then I can assure you we're not going to be a country much longer.
It was unanimous....
But she didn’t like it
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