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How Trump Could Upend Taxation in America
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 22, 2024Updated 2:33 p.m. ET | Andrew Duehren

Posted on 09/22/2024 1:44:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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Andy sounds skeert.
1 posted on 09/22/2024 1:44:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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“The joke is maybe over the next two weeks he’ll get all the way there, and he’ll have fully eliminated the income tax with all of his proposals,”

I’m not laughing. I actually have to pay taxes


2 posted on 09/22/2024 1:50:02 PM PDT by struggle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The joke is maybe over the next two weeks he’ll get all the way there, and he’ll have fully eliminated the income tax with all of his proposals,”

I’m not laughing. I actually have to pay taxes


3 posted on 09/22/2024 1:50:03 PM PDT by struggle
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Tariffs would help American workers because it would be cheaper to make widgets here than to import Chinese junk.

4 posted on 09/22/2024 1:57:19 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think that’s how it was originally in the US until they added the first excise tax on alcohol, which kicked off the Whiskey Rebellion.

So the tariff-only approach lasted one presidential term I think.


5 posted on 09/22/2024 2:06:55 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The constitutional way to fund the Federal government... tariffs and excise taxes. But of course, the government Would have to be much smaller... but that’s also the constitutional way.


6 posted on 09/22/2024 2:09:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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I actually have this quaint theory that an income tax is slavery by other means. If a 100% tax rate is pure slavery (you don’t own the fruit of your labor), then a lesser percentage is but a matter of degree.


7 posted on 09/22/2024 2:10:06 PM PDT by abb
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They can eliminate the income tax by bringing it down to 1% for starters. THEN deal with the rest of the stuff. Tariffs, sin taxes. I’d even tax millionaires. They vote for the democrats. I’d make them pay for their ‘guilt’.


8 posted on 09/22/2024 2:11:49 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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1) No income tax means more money to spend even with tariffs.

2) No income tax could mean elimination of the IRS. Post-election exciting?


9 posted on 09/22/2024 2:18:11 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How about telling Tim Walz to mind his own business. Tell him that how much money people have, how much property they own and where they keep it is a private matter and that is a major reason why the framers banned income taxes.
Ironic how liberals claim that abortionists are above the law, that state=licensed medical doctors have the right to terminate pregnancies of healthy females carrying healthy babies without any shame over their 1913 income tax which took away any claim to a right to privacy.
Bush blew it in 2001. He could have gotten rid of income tax, payroll tax and the corporate income tax—some or all of them. Then he set the table for an Obama presidency by not making a deal on tax increase/spending cuts in 2007, after he lost the House & Senate, then by joining with Pelosi to let Democrats buy the 2008 election with unnecessary and inflationary stimulus checks and corrupt bailouts of Democrat donors, while screwing Main Street with more debt and $4 gas price that he blamed on demand from India and China. Obama then ran up twice as much debt in 8 years as Bush did, then Biden ran up more debt in 4 years than Bush did in 8 years. For once, GOP needs real tax reform from bottom up that is not like Reagan’s and really shrinking the size of government that Reagan never even tried to do


10 posted on 09/22/2024 2:28:09 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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You could frame it that way, but you’d also have to contrast whether or not a people should have a government and if that government should be granted some authority over those same people. If so, then how is it funded?

The question is not new. The start of the Book of Kings is God recommending that people not have a king but would not consider it sinful if they chose to have one.

The king is primarily responsible for defense against marauders, but that takes an army of those willing to fight. They can’t eat their spears and rocks so...

Of course, like governments today, kings abuse power.


11 posted on 09/22/2024 2:35:13 PM PDT by fruser1
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I think Trump just made an off the cuff remark and you will never see it go anywhere. I don’t think eliminating the income tax and replacing it with “tariffs” would raise the income necesary to pay debts and would probably set off an international trade war. This should not be taken seriously.


12 posted on 09/22/2024 2:49:01 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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15 to 17% sales tax to replace all payroll taxes. FICA included.


13 posted on 09/22/2024 3:02:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am all for smaller government.

Starve the beast.


14 posted on 09/22/2024 3:07:33 PM PDT by JoeRender
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You do it my way. Eliminate the IRS. Then cut spending as everyone’s paycheck will reflect it.


15 posted on 09/22/2024 3:17:53 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“ Mr. Trump instead suggested imposing a broad tax on the goods that Americans buy from abroad. In his view, such tariffs could replace income taxes as the main source of federal revenue.”

Sounds good.


16 posted on 09/22/2024 3:20:13 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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2023 featured $3.8T in imports and $2.2T in federal income tax revenue. A 100% tariff should do it.


17 posted on 09/22/2024 3:43:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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Tax bills originate in the House. The President can propose…but thats it.

If there is a 4 vote margin…none of this stuff even starts.


18 posted on 09/22/2024 4:50:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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And if you all don’t VOTE for the R’s because they aren’t PURE ENOUGH...you get what you deserve!!


19 posted on 09/22/2024 5:11:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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A LOT of vested interests against this.

Tax lawyers, CPAs, Accountants, sales people selling junk to people when the idiots get their "refund".

The biography of Blaine explains a lot about the fight against the unconstitutional income tax that was lost in 1918.

20 posted on 09/22/2024 5:23:04 PM PDT by Mogger (AreIn bookstores is a very expensive, beautifully bound in green leather Holy Koran. If one was goin)
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