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To: Phoenix8

Ukraine to it’s further demise has not fired anything long range into Russia before now. The idiots are going to figure out their folly pretty shortly. Putin has done everything possible to stay calm and not do a major escalation. If he gets replaced, WW3 is next. There are those behind him that will ratchet things way up. The people that are deciding things for the west are retarded war mongers. Russia has over 1 million troops in service. The EU?? The US just under 300k actual combat, how many in todays military are “Karen’s”?


8 posted on 09/19/2024 6:56:32 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: foundedonpurpose
Putin has done everything possible to stay calm and not do a major escalation.

The invasion of Ukraine was a major escalation.

The idea that Putin (and Russia) has been holding back does not seem very likely. It is not completely implausible. Look at the U.S. policy during Vietnam, or U.S. policy during Korea. Political considerations meant the U.S. held back and reached a stalemate in Korea, and lost in Vietnam.

16 posted on 09/19/2024 7:21:48 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: foundedonpurpose

Ukraine has used drones to attack numerous targets as far, and more, for two years now. I think the record was something over 1000km. There have been numerous attacks in and around Moscow.

That was why, for instance, Ukraine has been able to cause significant damage to cracking towers on dozens of oil refineries. Those are sensitive small targets where a small warhead can be effective.

Ukraine has also used drones to attack distant airfields, fuel depots, ammo dumps, etc. The only important difference in this case was that the ammo was supposedly in bunkers. That would make it proof vs a small warhead.

The problem with drones has been small warheads due to limited availability of high energy power plants for drones. Lately Ukraine has been showing off jet powered drones. Maybe this is a first use of these.


19 posted on 09/19/2024 7:23:32 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: foundedonpurpose

Wake up! Your Russia can’t even take Ukraine after almost 3 years. All the trained and experienced Russian soldiers were killed in the first 2 years of this invasion.

And you say that getting rid of all this ammunition will cause Ukraine to further demise? No one is buying what you are selling.


22 posted on 09/19/2024 7:34:59 AM PDT by POGO163
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To: foundedonpurpose

......... Truth told on that there comment ........


32 posted on 09/19/2024 9:44:46 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: foundedonpurpose

If you are interested in the balance of military between Russia and the 32 nation NATO military alliance, here are some articles.
https://www.google.com/search?q=current+combat+forces+nato&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1057US1057&oq=current+combat+forces+nato&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIxODUzajBqMagCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This one gives a good idea of it. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/russia-war-nato-usa-troops-tanks-missiles-numbers-ukraine/#:~:text=In%20terms%20of%20sheer%20troop,1%20million%20active%2Dduty%20soldiers.


36 posted on 09/19/2024 1:04:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: foundedonpurpose

What scares me is supposedly (Col Ritter) the Russians have an “all in” policy on nukes. They will be pushed to the wall, or perhaps not that far who knows, then attack with everything they have.

None of these escalatory steps in THAT game: tactical nuke on the battlefield, a few tactical nukes on headquarters, 1 city, full launch.

Just all out “Red Alert”, “ Alas Babylon” attack.


38 posted on 09/19/2024 1:38:03 PM PDT by Phoenix8
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