Posted on 09/07/2024 11:40:36 AM PDT by DallasBiff
On warm summer nights, the park across the street from my house is filled with people playing dribbling soccer balls, playing volleyball, or engaging in aggressive games of Spikeball.
Nearly all of them will have music playing through Bluetooth speakers, usually from the Spotify Top 100. And if I’m honest, none of this music is any good. All I hear is mumbled lyrics tunelessly rendered (well, except for the overuse of Auto-Tune) and beats so quantized that they could be substituted for an atomic clock
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I was shocked when I found that out, too.
Here’s a full live performance, including The Stones’ Mick Taylor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbYQYOM66MA
I did. I saved it. Will check it out.
Just saw Yes and Deep Purple at SPAC all original members but one. Steve Howe is a mechanic, they were very tight. Deep Purple crushed it.
Big part of the problem is that most industry driven groups are selected because, in the producers eyes, the music being hyped is sellable(clickable) and is going to guarantee a profit. That’s why it’s banal and all sounds the same.
I have tried to listen to it...I would rather trim my toenails.
Most of it is a lot of musical sounds...mostly computer..coupled with a muted, whiny, nasal, gamma male voice..but the cacophony of sounds things was done long ago with classical music, “Winchester cathedral” song, and the Beatles with, “Tomorrow never Knows, Day in the life, Strawberry Fields, I am the Walrus”. New music is 99% gahr-bahge. Just sayin’
Like who?
“the soyboy voices are just annoying. Most sound like they are on puberty blockers.” Yes indeed! I listen to a lot of radio, and I’ve been noticing lately that men’s voices have changed. They used to sound like . . . well, adult men, mature males. Nowadays most of the men I hear on radio, even on sports talk shows, seem to have high, pinched voices and — worse! — many have adopted the manner of speech of teenage girls. And on NPR especially the male on-air personalities all sound very effeminate, like stereotypical homosexuals. Has anyone else noticed this?
just listened to “ nowadays even Clancy can’t sing” great song for a novice songwriter at his age.
"There is a popular young couple on YouTube that gives reactions to old songs that their viewers recommend."
Most people miss the real point about “today’s” music.
Today’s music is the entire catalog of great musical works from the early Renaissance until present day. There are literally 10s of thousands of digitized recordings of every imaginable work in every style.
And little of it after the year 2000 is even worth a trial listen.
But we have access to masterworks of every generation before us.
And that’s not nuthin’.
You write, “Nobody listens to new classical music. They listen to Beethoven and Mozart.”
Around here the local classical music station out of the University plays some of the most horrific modern and atonal crap that one could imagine. I have tried to learn who listens to the station and have yet to encounter a person who does. I gather it is an “in your face” response to those who do love true classical music.
Once the Monetizers could monetize culture, they perverted culture for money, and block things that would compete with their efforts.
Neil Young sucked almost as much as Gen Z music.
(Just my opinion)
David Crosby and Venice sitting in a room rehearsing. No amps, no auto tune
Jump to 43:14
https://youtu.be/-vV5VSxsMLw?si=vkkg_T0R5zKtp1o6
“Ever since copyright laws have become so stringently enforced, music has deteriorated.”
All intellectual property laws tend to reward creativity that’s already happened, while discouraging creativity that hasn’t happened yet.
Oh, yes, yes it is. Far worse.
Same thing is true for songs from 40, or 60 years ago too. “Surfin’ USA” was “Sweet Little Sixteen” with different lyrics and a slightly different beat. “Sunglasses At Night” is just “Sweet Dreams are Made Of This” crossed with “Billie Jean”. “Smells Like Teen Spirit” stole the chords from some underground Texas band, and the bassline from “More Than A Feeling” by Boston.
Recently went to a wedding of a couple each born in the early 90s, and the entire playlist was from 10-15 years ago (give or take a year). And I have to say, the place was rocking the entire night.
So it isn’t just me pining from my old music because that’s not my music though I remember much of it from the radio (before that station went away, and before I started listening mostly to country, and before NYC’s country station went away)
I am too, but it’s not our imagination. Notice how often classic rock from the 70s and 80s is used in TV commercials, as opposed to the very few that use today’s hollow garbage. Advertisers certainly know what people respond to, and they’re showing it’s definitely not today’s “music.” I think the explanation for today’s music is that superficial people devoid of substance produce “art”, including music, that is superficial and devoid of substance. Today’s bland, mass-produced pablum is the perfect reflection of the selfie generation.
There is one exception to advertisers relying on 70s and 80s music, and it’s the NFL and their game-time advertisers who apparently believe that every single person watching is black and only listens to rap. But given how many ways the NFL now panders only to that 13% of the population, maybe they’re right.
to SL: There are a number of reasons why music changes so radically in the early 1950s, and you would have to take my course in the history of rock music to find out about them all🙂 but the one that fits here is that 1952 is the first year that all high schoolers were too young to remember the Depression, and didn't remember much of WWII, and moreover, they were the demographic with the most disposable income--their parents had lots of money and lots of bills, but every dollar in a teen's hand was disposable, and the music execs began to realize this and aim their music to teens, who knew little about music but had lots of hormones to be ginned up by music.
to M21: music is so easy to obtain today that it has ceased being an art form and has become a utility, to be used as a drug for stimulation or calming, excitement to worship, and it is EVERYWHERE. In my courses my first assignment is for my students to avoid all music for 24 hours. It drives them nuts; they're all addicted to the beat and the drone. Break that addiction, and you begin opening their ears to beauty and depth in sound.
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