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Where Does All the Money Go?
The Heritage Foundation. ^ | 2023 | The Heritage Foundation.

Posted on 09/04/2024 6:37:28 AM PDT by daniel1212

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To: iluvschnitzle

“Govt sends the collected funds to HMO based on a per member enrolled.”

That’s pretty much the English NHS system. There are adjustments made for the age and sickness of the person.


41 posted on 09/04/2024 8:35:55 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: iluvschnitzle

“Sales tax-—everyone chips in.”

The Europeans use value-added taxation as there is less incentive to cheat.

Mr. Bodega:

Where is the sales tax on this?

Mr. Revenue Guy:

The stuff was stolen and no sales tax was paid by customers.

Mr. Bodega:

You’re lying....

It’s a jungle of really dishonest apes out in the real world.


42 posted on 09/04/2024 8:46:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: Brian Griffin

I see...well I have known there are issues with that...I am curious to learn what its issues are.....Maybe my ideas are garbage! LOL! Thanks for that info!


43 posted on 09/04/2024 8:52:43 AM PDT by iluvschnitzle
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To: iluvschnitzle
How much of that money went to inelligable people who never paid into the accounts ?
44 posted on 09/04/2024 8:59:15 AM PDT by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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To: Dead Corpse

“It IS correct. Art 1 is the list of things Art 4 would then be making the rules on. Anything not on Art 1 Sec 8 is hands off.”

ARTICLE 4, Section 3 was intended to allow the US government to pay Revolutionary War soldiers their pensions and land grant bonuses. The armies of the Revolutionary War were raised four or more years before the Constitution was drafted.

In 2024, Kamala Harris, her and Joe Biden’s overpaid domestic armies of voters and election fraudsters, and some members of her invading armies of illegals are fighting to spread Donkey Communism throughout the land.

Is the clause being abused? Yes! But the broad wording is what it is.


45 posted on 09/04/2024 9:04:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: iluvschnitzle

Government should try to make it so markets can meet the needs as broadly as possible.

There is no natural market for national defense.

Could I interest you in buying 1/100,000 of an F-16?

Probably not.

People are prepared to pay to pave and maintain roads in neighborhoods.


46 posted on 09/04/2024 9:09:22 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: dfwgator

Damn skippy!


47 posted on 09/04/2024 9:11:40 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: DSH

No, the boomers aren’t the junkies.

The junkie is the government who took MY INCOME over decades of my career so they could turn around and squander it on welfare rats, illegals and residents, in exchange for votes.


48 posted on 09/04/2024 9:14:10 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: daniel1212

“Tontines enable subscribers to share the risk of living a long life by combining features of a group annuity with a kind of mortality lottery. Each subscriber pays a sum into a trust and thereafter receives a periodical payout. As members die, their payout entitlements devolve to the other participants, and so the value of each continuing payout increases. On the death of the final member, the trust scheme is usually wound up.

“Tontines are still common in France.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tontine

In theory, sicker people die sooner than healthy people, so flatter rate, quite fair combined health coverage/old age tontine coverage might be possible.


49 posted on 09/04/2024 9:19:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: daniel1212

Miss Purdy’s Private School

Tuition 2024-2025

$10,000

Parents & child: But we only have $200/month to pay upfront

Miss Purdy: See the middle-age older investors over there.

Mr. & Mrs. Investor:

How about for your $7600, I and my parents promise to pay after I (would) reach age 26, .5% of my income per month, with three other relative backers as listed promising jointly and severely to pay .5% of the then annual tuition per such month as a minimum monthly payment for as long as you live?


50 posted on 09/04/2024 9:39:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: daniel1212
Enough to ruin several mornings. But where do you stand on abortion? Isn't that what matters most? What about marijuana? How can we ever survive another day without legalizing marijuana? Aren't these really the most important issues of all time? Not to mention reparations and renaming all the icons of slavery and civil war. What about saving the planet and green energy and all that? Hmmmm?

Do I really need to add the /s? Money may not be everthing but try living without it. Getting our house in order should be our most pressing issue.

51 posted on 09/04/2024 9:46:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Art 1 sec 8 has 17 Federal job duties they are allowed to do... Everything else is prohibited.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; - https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-8/

Then there is the interpretation of general Welfare:

With respect to the meaning of “the general welfare” the pages of The Federalist itself disclose a sharp divergence of views between its two principal authors. Hamilton adopted the literal, broad meaning of the clause;608 Madison contended that the powers of taxation and appropriation of the proposed government should be regarded as merely instrumental to its remaining powers; in other words, as little more than a power of self-support.609 From early times, Congress has acted upon Hamilton’s interpretation. Appropriations for subsidies610 and for an ever-increasing variety of “internal improvements”611 constructed by the Federal Government, had their beginnings in the administrations of Washington and Jefferson.612 Since 1914, federal grants-in-aid, which are sums of money apportioned among the states for particular uses, often conditioned upon the duplication of the sums by the recipient state, and upon observance of stipulated restrictions as to their use, have become commonplace.in details): - https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-1/26-spending-for-the-general-welfare.html

52 posted on 09/04/2024 9:48:11 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: iluvschnitzle

“not being able to get what one needed”

Preferred providers as listed in a writing provided to the covered person might get issued a check upfront, but with warning letters to the provider and insured stating why the care is not covered and that repayment plus 18% interest will accrue unless the check is returned to the insurer within 30 days of issue.

If I want to contest my property tax bill, I can only do so after paying the tax collector.

Pay first, argue later.


53 posted on 09/04/2024 9:48:48 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: lurk
Entitlement spending is a form of heroin.

Not when you are owed it, as in SS.

54 posted on 09/04/2024 9:48:50 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I believe that interest on the debt now consumes 76% of federal revenue. And the rest they mostly waste.

Economist E.J. Antoni reports that based on the Fed's June numbers, interest on the national debt is the equivalent of 76% of all personal income taxes collected by the government.Jul 21, 2024.. - https://dailyhodl.com/2024/07/21/interest-payments-on-us-national-debt-will-shatter-1140000000000-this-year-eating-76-of-all-income-taxes-collected-report/

55 posted on 09/04/2024 9:49:33 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Sequoyah101

“where do you stand on abortion?”

That’s a cheap way of getting votes.

A chemical abortion could be had recently for $578, which would often be paid for by an ‘insurance’ company.


56 posted on 09/04/2024 9:56:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: Sequoyah101

In a well-run society, most adults under about age 70 would work.

That would not favor politicians who love Communism.

These ‘Marxist’ (actually Eugene Debs & Upton Sinclair admiring) politicians have to offer up other things, such as pot (for the Libertarian vote), abortion (for young single female votes), $6000 childbirth payouts, $25000 down payments (for young married adult votes), student loan cancellations (for ‘educated’ young adult votes), reparations (for black votes), and legalization (for Hispanic votes).


57 posted on 09/04/2024 10:05:27 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: daniel1212

Ever notice that a lot of stuff went “sideways” with our FedGov in the early 1900’s?

Over a Century later and we still refuse to fix things.


58 posted on 09/04/2024 10:56:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Brian Griffin; All

Here’s something to chew on according to my MD son-in-law Medicare pays the salaries of all the medical interns nationwide. I find that to be astounding, I’ve never been able to verify it. If so, Here’s another hole punched in the bucket for elder medical expenses.

Moral of the story: Government creates a fund to solve A before you know they’re spe ding that money on B!


59 posted on 09/04/2024 11:36:40 AM PDT by Reily
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Here’s something to chew on according to my MD son-in-law Medicare pays the salaries of all the medical interns nationwide. I find that to be astounding, I’ve never been able to verify it. If so, Here’s another hole punched in the bucket for elder medical expenses.

Moral of the story: Government creates a fund to solve A before you know they’re spe ding that money on B!


60 posted on 09/04/2024 12:00:50 PM PDT by Reily
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