Anyone who has dreams or visions from God knows the lasting impact the experience can leave. Like so many things it is often private and cannot easily be shared.
Jesus told the Thief on the cross that ‘today’ he would be with him in Paradise. This is the immediate destination upon death but is clearly not a final destination whatever else the Paradise of God may represent with fountains of living waters and more. The book of Revelation raises more questions about our final home than it answers, that said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Jesus told us that where he is we may be also. Where he is I pray we are all received into.
Paul had a similar experience where he was shown things he was not allowed to describe or even lawfully talk about:
“I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.” 2 Corinthians 12:2
Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 embodies much of what this thread is seeking answers for,
Solomon wrote about the Silver Cord that snaps and we fly away. That spiritual living soul attachment to our bodies that many of these NDE reports have mentioned:
“Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” Ecclesiastes 12:6-7
And a life review:
“Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.” Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
Any messages conveyed where we’re left to believe there are multiple ways to salvation outside of receiving the Jubilee of Christ Jesus, that his death, burial and resurrection according to the scriptures providing the kinsman redeemer provisions of the Law of Moses to as many as will receive it, that Christ is not the ONLY way - is a deception and the very one we’ve been warned about. The spirit of anti-Christ.
My thoughts:
The spirit world operates in a bizarre manner and is not at all how we might believe it should work using only our understandings in the flesh. I believe that where we can see the spooky action of quantum mechanics is also where our reality abuts up against the spirit realm with losing locality and spacetime. Recall how a risen Jesus entered and departed a room without going through a physical door.
It is outside of our ability to clearly perceive beyond three dimensions and time (we exist only halfway in time moving only one direction, forward) and our ability to perceive in the flesh, but I believe there are times when our soul detachment is so extremely pushed to the forefront by some severe physical trauma or bodily shutdown and then what is always at work around us may become perceptible or even very briefly interactive.
Like blood in the water to a pool of sharks, hence the potential for manifesting great deception and doctrines of demons.
Thank you for your thoughts on the issue.
[[but I believe there are times when our soul detachment is so extremely pushed to the forefront by some severe physical trauma or bodily shutdown and then what is always at work around us may become perceptible or even very briefly interactive]]
I would say thay explains pretty well the weird disconnectedness i felt when I was sent to the outer darkness- it was an experience that is really hard to put into words, and would seem to contradict what we know to be true (ie, I “didn’t 3xist” BUT i was frightfully aware somehow of extreme isolation and knew it was for eternity, and the finality of it was the most frightening part of the whole experience