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‘Allowing the death of a baby after it’s born’: Is it actually happening, and is it legal?
Live Action News ^ | August 5, 2024 | Nancy Flanders

Posted on 08/06/2024 3:38:03 PM PDT by Morgana

Presidential nominee and former President Donald Trump addressed the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) convention in Chicago on Wednesday, where he discussed what he called the Democratic party’s ‘radical’ position on abortion, with journalists Rachel Scott and Kadia Goba moderating.

Abortion is not freedom

Goba, a politics reporter at Semafor, asked Trump, “Do you think the Republican Party is getting too judgy about people’s lives, when you think about abortion and when you think about what JD Vance has said [about childless women]?”

Trump replied, “I think that the Democrat party is the one that has the problem, I think they are radical on abortion because they’re allowing abortion in the ninth month.”

“But it’s about freedom, right?” replied Goba.

The idea of abortion as “freedom” is the new marketing tactic of the abortion industry and its allies, created to replace the long-held insistence that abortion is about “choice.” This sounds good at face value, but it ultimately means that abortion advocates erroneously believe a woman cannot be truly free unless she is legally allowed to kill her own child.

Americans value freedom, and most would agree that human beings should be able to make their own decisions about their lives (while still following societal laws). But induced abortion — the direct and intentional killing of preborn humans — ignores the rights and freedoms of preborn humans. The first right — the right to life — belongs to every human being intrinsically. No one — male or female — should be awarded the false freedom to deprive another human being of his or her right to not be unjustly killed. Every innocent human being should be free to live.

As the 14th Amendment to the Constitution states, “No State shall … deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Pro-abortion states are passing laws surrounding “pregnancy outcomes”

“They’re allowing the death of a baby after the baby is born,” Trump continued. “They’re allowing abortions in the eighth and ninth month.”

Goba quickly replied, “Sir, that is illegal in every state.”

Scott added, “Executing a baby in every state of the country is illegal. It’s a crime.”

Aside from the fact that a “baby” outside the womb is the same being as the “fetus” that resides inside the womb (and therefore, abortion does indeed execute that individual before birth), pro-abortion lawmakers oppose legislation requiring medical treatment for children who accidentally survive the abortions intended to end their lives. They insist that the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act already federally protects these children, but this law has no “teeth” — no actual penalties or enforcement — and these same lawmakers have resisted all attempts to pass another law that would penalize to leaving a child to die.

Many abortion advocates even insist that abortion survivors are simply a “myth” invented by pro-lifers, but according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between 2003 and 2014, at least 143 babies died after initially surviving abortions — and that number is considered a low estimate. Some of these babies might have survived if they had been given proper medical care. And there are other examples: Minnesota reported a total of 24 babies who initially survived their abortions from 2015-2021. Arizona saw reports of 37 survivors from 2017 through 2019. Florida reported 27 survivors from 2015-2020.

In addition, in April of this year, Live Action News fact-checked the fact checkers at Poynter on this same issue:

In their article, the authors make at least three serious errors: 1) They put the testimony of abortion providers over actual reported facts from the CDC and state reports, 2) they falsely claim that existing federal law already prevents leaving abortion survivors to die (infanticide), and 3) they claim that infanticide is illegal in every state — and therefore, it never happens.

For instance, Baby Rowan was alive in his mother’s womb at 22 weeks when she decided to have an abortion because she didn’t want another baby. She had an induced labor abortion — and Rowan initially survived. His mother recalled, “I started sobbing and lay down [on] the floor. I stared and stared at my son. I was horrified that I had just had him in a commode. His right leg moved. He curled up a bit like he was cold; I screamed [for help]! No one came.” When an abortion facility nurse finally came, she refused to call 911. Without medical aid, Rowan died not long after.

Since that time, other children have survived premature births as young as 21 weeks.

Rowan is just one of many abortion survivors. Some were saved by caring medical professionals. Others were left alone to die.

In March 2022, pro-life activists discovered the bodies of five babies aborted late in pregnancy in a medical waste box outside of the Washington Surgi-Clinic abortion business in Washington, D.C. Experts found that at least one of the babies showed possible signs of having died after birth, but authorities refused to investigate, even though the abortionist who operates the facility (Dr. Cesare Santangelo) had previously admitted, “Usually at this point in your pregnancy [24 weeks], it’s too early to survive, usually. It will expire shortly after birth … it’s all in how vigorously you do things to help a fetus survive at this point. We would not help it.” Again, children born at 21 weeks have survived.

In addition, California Governor Gavin Newsom and Colorado Governor Jared Polis both signed into effect laws that would prohibit prosecution due to pregnancy and infant loss. And in Michigan, Prop 3 does the same. The language of all the legislation could allow for abortion survivors and babies born with disabilities to be left to die and prevent the prosecution of infanticide, according to some experts.

For example, California’s law, Assembly Bill 2223, states:

Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise deprived of their rights under this article, based on their actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death due to a pregnancy-related cause. (emphasis added)

“If it turned out the infant’s death was ‘pregnancy related,’ a term which is undefined, overbroad, and meaningless since even birth is pregnancy related, an immediate private cause of action (with damages starting at $25,000 and attorney’s fees) could be taken against the person who did the investigation. The real aim of this bill is to cover up and block any investigation into late term chemical abortions which studies have proven will result in live births,” explained Theresa Brennan, Esq.

It may be illegal, but newborn babies are being left to die or actively killed in America, and pro-abortion laws are moving in the direction of protecting the doctors who participate in this. Kermit Gosnell was the one abortionist who was convicted of killing babies born alive in his facility. To believe he was simply an outlier would be a mistake.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: abortion; baby; infanticide; prolife

1 posted on 08/06/2024 3:38:03 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

I think right now it is legal.


2 posted on 08/06/2024 3:39:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Morgana

“Is it actually happening, and is it legal?”

Only if you are not the parent.


3 posted on 08/06/2024 3:39:38 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Morgana

The Democrats want freedom up until birth. However, “birth” is defined as up to 24 hours after delivery to give time to inspect the “fetus” for defects, at which point the parents and doctor can decide to abort or certify a birth.


4 posted on 08/06/2024 3:45:19 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Morgana

It’s not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.


5 posted on 08/06/2024 4:09:44 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Morgana

““But it’s about freedom, right?” replied Goba.”

freedom like burn your bra is similar to killing your kid?


6 posted on 08/06/2024 4:36:15 PM PDT by b4me (Pray, and let God change you. He knows better than you or anyone else, who He made you to be.)
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To: Morgana

Registered or not, each and every baby born has a name - citizen, and a collection of rights and responsibilities enumerated in the Constitution. To end the life of a baby after birth is either murder or manslaughter.


7 posted on 08/06/2024 4:41:54 PM PDT by T. Rustin Noone (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Morgana; SaxxonWoods; alternatives?; Salman; trustin; noone; b4me
When it comes to my opinion, I am with Baby Harriet and not the Satanic Temple. When my son took his baby daughter home, she was so tiny that her head and shoulders fit in his hand. The pregnancy essentially ended because the daughter had decided her twin brother was hogging all the food and all the space in the womb. She is nine years old now, but then she did not seem much different in size from Baby Harriet.

The sign pro-abortion advocates carry saying, “My Body My Decision” could have expressed the sentiment of Baby Harriet if she had not been thrown out with the other medical waste.

BABY HARRIET

Insert the picture of Baby Harriet here, but be aware looking at the picture in the article can be disturbing.

MY BODY MY DECISION

Consider that by a 220-210 margin, the House of Representatives on passed the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, with only one Democrat voting in favor. So, with only one exception these legislators establish a line for defense of abortion within their Democrat Party that includes those born alive despite attempted abortion.

According to the logic for voting against this bill, an infant breathing air on its own is not a human person. Medical personnel are not only not derelict in failing to provide care, but instead must murder the baby. For Democrats abortion then becomes an unbounded sacrament.

Now read the bill and see if that is not the most reasonable interpretation. Clearly, we can’t just all get along. The Satanic Temple

https://thesatanictemple.com

“TST stands alone because we are the only entity that can assert a religious liberty that terminating a pregnancy is a central part of a religious ritual that encourages self-empowerment and affirms bodily autonomy.”

Baby Harriet’s body was found in medical waste. Police deny there was any wrongdoing.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/baby-harriet-body-medical-waste/

We Cannot Ignore the Sickening, Evil Depravity of Planned Parenthood (Long Article)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3312329/posts?page=1

H.R. 26: Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr26/text?adlt=strict&toWww=1&redig=CC7BEBFFF32F48ADB9D0825ACEB90034

8 posted on 08/06/2024 5:28:51 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Morgana

It’s the Obama special.


9 posted on 08/06/2024 5:29:29 PM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Morgana

Goba should have been challenged to cite those states where abortions at 8-9 months…anytime up to birth…..are “ illegal”


10 posted on 08/06/2024 6:23:10 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: silverleaf

Any “doctor” who “allows” a baby to die should be arrested and flogged with their diplomas and their license to practice.


11 posted on 08/07/2024 7:37:50 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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