Posted on 07/29/2024 1:07:56 AM PDT by Morgana
"...just pretend you got a tip like you
pretend you're a
girl..."
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Good for you. Taxing tips is just plain theft. If I give a bum on the street a couple bucks, is that taxable? Is the IRS going after bums too? Musicians on the street corners? A tip is for doing a job well done, should not be taxed. If I owned a restaurant I’d pay my workers well, and if they got tips I would make it sure I didn’t know a damn thing. Screw the government that squanders our money.
So, just ask the driver "why so late?" I disagree.
They could call the shop and ask what time the driver left. However, imo it is an issue of cooperation between the shop and the driver. The driver must raise the issue of slow pizza completion and its impact on his tips. If he is the cause he deserves no tip. Either way it is on him.
A good post. I see it dragged a few SAPPs out of their closets.
Well, there really is no laws about tipping, it’s entirely up to you. I do not go to Restaurants that add tips to the check. No way of knowing if the staff actually gets any of it.
Pretend Girls never stop complaining
I worked for a time as a delivery driver for Panera Bread back when they had their own drivers and not using DoorDash or Uber Eats for deliveries as they do now.
There were a few times I got sent out to deliver extremely large orders, some that were put in at the last minute, some that really should have gone through our catering service, but catering IIRC required a 24-hour notice.
I remember one order like this, they put in an order for over $250 worth of food and bottled drinks during the lunch rush and it was all hands-on deck, including the manager and myself and another driver to hustle to get their order ready.
The manager gave the order to me to deliver because I was his most trusted driver and we both double checked the order before I left to make sure it was accurate and included things like plates that were typically only for catering, and he even threw in 2 dozen cookies at no charge as a
“thank you”.
Amazingly I got to the place within our 30-minute delivery window. But it was in the city and there was no parking, so I had to double park and it took me 4 trips up 3 flights of stairs and was made to wait. Then the office manager checked off each and every item on the receipt (not that I could blame her for that) but then she wanted me to unwrap and plate the food in the conference room like I was a server at a restaurant and wait until their people were seated and confirmed their order was to their satisfaction.
I had to very politely, and I stress very politely, explain why this was not allowed as for one thing, health department rules like having no gloves or a sink to wash up in before handling the unwrapped food, etc. and that I was a delivery person, not a server and that I had other deliveries waiting for me to make.
When I got back to the restaurant my manager assumed I got a nice tip for this large order. What did I get? Nada, zero, zilch.
There were a few other times like this when I delivered very large orders, also placed at the last minute but delivered on time and got no tip, and yes, one such was for a church run daycare center, and they were extremely rude and condescending to me, why I have no idea.
Another time a customer called in the night before, a very large breakfast order, nearly $350 worth of pastries and muffins, coffee urns, bottled juices, breakfast sandwiches for a 7 AM delivery – and our deliveries didn’t’ start until 8AM. My manager called me the night before and asked me and several others to come in early. Again, I got no tip for this very large delivery.
OTOH, I did make some large deliveries and got a decent or more than generous tip. And I had some regular customers who always tipped and some that never did. I recognized the regulars by name and address, the tippers and the non-tippers, but I always treated them the same as to doing a good job of checking their order and doing my best of getting there in time whether or not I knew I’d get a tip or not. We had some delivery drivers who would try to refuse making deliveries to customers who were known not to tip, but I wasn’t one of them.
But there were times, especially early in the morning or later in the evening or sometimes on weekends, where I was the only delivery driver on duty and suddenly several orders would come in at the same time and spread across our rather large delivery area. I always carried some cookies in case I was late to give to the customer with an apology, even texting ahead that I was going to be late, and most times the customer were good but a few times I got cursed at.
FWIW, I was earning just a bit over the hourly minimum wage and got a mileage reimbursement that was, along with tips added to the bill (not the cash tips), paid out in cash daily at the end of my shift, but the milage was paid at only at half the IRS mileage rate and the tax reform, yes passed under the Trump administration, I could no longer take a tax deduction for the difference and actually ended up owing tax that year.
And if you think I claimed my cash tips as income on my tax return, you’d be mistaken.
But we really depended on tips to cover the milage we were not reimbursed for and the wear and tear on our personal vehicles.
We also used to have a district manager occasionally come on ride-alongs. We were expected to have our vehicles well maintained and washed inside and out at our own expense.
On one such ride along with the district manager I had a delivery to a downtown customer, a regular customer, the local Bar Association office and there was no parking. I had to explain to him the reality of circling the block over and over hoping to find a spot, feed a meter or park in a parking garage for which we were not reimbursed, or parking many blocks away and being late vs. double parking for a few minutes.
We were not supposed to do things like double park or park “illegally” like in a loading zone but especially for downtown deliveries, often there wasn’t really any other choice. Fortunately, I never got a ticket. We had lighted car toppers and I’d put my lights on flash and I hustled to get in and out quickly.
I would also add that in between deliveries, I had to work the dining room, bring orders to tables, clean tables, fill the self-serve drink dispensers and stock the napkins, utensils and condiments, and sometimes help in the back kitchen with food prep. And if I worked at close, to vacuum the dining room and clean the bathrooms. I never had any down time.
But the worst shift to work in the dining room was Sunday mornings after chuch let out and especially on Easter Sunday. I don’t know why but some of the rudest people were the people who had just left chuch.
I’ve known a lot of restaurant servers who say the same.
FWIW, if you order 10 or more pizzas and expect that to be delivered in the same amount of time that you would for ordering 1 or 2 pizzas, the problem is not with the pizza place or the delivery driver.
“If you leave out the tranny part of the equation, then it’s just a matter of the 10 pizzas delivered late or not. If they were late, was it the driver’s fault? If the pizzas were late and not the driver’s fault, then I think a tip is in order. As long as the tranny doesn’t flaunt being a tranny. I can’t stand the flaunting. Do not get in my face with your idea of sexuality.”
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Agreed, in every way. Regardless of this person’s sexual confusion and choices, he still did a job. If the lateness wasn’t his fault, why penalize him?
Oh, and treating this guy like this, rather than being decent (and compassionate as to his obvious psychological/moral problems), doesn’t make ANYONE who is religious look good in the eyes of those who aren’t. That kind of nastiness shouldn’t be on our side.
“But the worst shift to work in the dining room was Sunday mornings after chuch let out and especially on Easter Sunday. I don’t know why but some of the rudest people were the people who had just left chuch.
I’ve known a lot of restaurant servers who say the same.”
I’ll second that. I used to be a waitress. I’ll never do that again.
“This kind of post creates real hatred against Christians and CHristianity, and Churches.”
The alphabet gang just did what at the Olympics and you talk about whom hating Christians?
No I don’t blame the church at all for this.
1. Tipping is optional.
2. HE was late.
3. Look at him! I’m shocked they even took the pizzas upon looking at HIM. Would you eat anything that creature delivered? Knowing how they hate Christians so much I’d worry HE tampered with the food.
He/she was probably just trying to do their job and trying to make a living or working a side job just like anyone else.
You said you once worked as a waitress? I don’t know the type of restaurant where you once worked but when I worked at Panera Bread, we had some younger folks working there, preparing the food who had tats and piercings and strange hair colors, a guy with long hair he kept in a “man bun” and a beard which he kept covered per health regulations, and who were some of the nicest people I’ve ever worked with and were very good, dependable workers and conscientious about doing their jobs.
We also had a mostly Spanish speaking guy who was the dishwasher and in charge of keeping the back of the house – the kitchen area clean and tidy and he did an excellent job.
One of the worst people I worked with there was an older woman, a real “Karen”, quick to tell you about how “Christian” she was and who would try to protolyze people at work, while she was also quick to criticize everything anyone did if it was not up her liking even if it wasn’t against any rules and go behind your back to the manager to complain, blame others for her mistakes and would stab you in the back quicker than looking at you.
FWIW, most delivery drivers there didn’t last long. I was among the few who worked there for over a year.
But when I worked there, there was a delivery driver, an older white guy who had a terrible attitude, who would try to take deliveries when it wasn’t his turn if he thought he’d get a good tip and was no where to be found if he didn’t think it would tip well. He also liked to do food prep but had to constantly be reminded about washing his hands and donning gloves while handling food. He was eventually fired after refusing deliveries, being rude to customers, not practicing safe food handling and sexually harassing several of the teenage female workers.
I agree. The Admin Moderator should pull this thread.
Easier than that. Pizza hot? Shop’s fault. Pizza cold/tepid? Driver’s fault.
Good call!
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