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To: Blueflag
3. I like your PHEV hybrid strategy, particularly if someone has just one car (which isn't you, just throwing that out there).

One of the reasons we went with a full EV (BEV) instead of a hybrid is because my wife and I have two cars and I wanted to diversify our dependency on energy type. Thus, if the Dims mess up our access to one energy type, we'll take the car that depends on the available energy type. So, if the Dims make a gasoline shortage or make gas too expensive (IMHO gas is expensive now), we'll take the BEV car. If the Dims make the grid undependable or too expensive to use, we'll take the gas pickup. As you pointed out the range of power alone in a PHEV hybrid, using that for long trips would be impossible if we had to depend on just power.

I'm not in any way criticizing people who get a hybrid EV or no EV at all. I'm just saying that's my strategy for a two-car couple.

Of course, the other reason I went with a BEV is because of home solar. We drive on average 40 miles per day local driving (in the past 12 months, 15,500 of our miles were charged at home). As you said, a PHEV can handle most local driving days with power alone. But with the BEV getting about 250 miles range on 80% charge, I can have a few days in a row of low solar (rainy days) without having to charge the BEV. That allows me to usually wait until a good sunny day to charge the BEV without having to charge from the grid. Thus, doing most of our driving in the BEV instead of a hybrid or our ICE pickup is part of why in the past 366 days, 82% of the power we've consumed in our home (including charging) came from homemade power, only 18% had to be pulled from the grid.

That doesn't make our home and local driving 100% energy independent, allowing me to disconnect from the grid. But it does allow my financial planning into retirement not worry nearly as much about runaway energy price inflation form the Dims' warmageddon cult policies.

8 posted on 07/19/2024 9:07:40 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

The Dems are going to screw up the grid and petroleum fuels, both.

A top reason to vote them out.


9 posted on 07/19/2024 9:37:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Tell It Right

Do you not have net metering? I do and it makes no difference (to my electric bill) when I consume electricity.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 9:41:08 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: Tell It Right

I (we) could track with you about 99% going forward. We’ll most likely replace the Fusion Energi with a BEV (likely an extended range Ford Mach E Premium). ‘My’ vehicle is an ICE Eco-boost F-150 with extended range fuel tanks. It’ll easily go 600 miles one tank on a road trip, which is longer than our bladders will go. The THIRD car is the Porsche Cayman (my wife’s toy). We’re set. I am retired and she will be next summer. The family (nuclear and extended) all live within 40 minutes so a BEV is a no-brainer for us.

We are a solar home as well, although we were limited to a 10 kW system by Ga law so we only get about 70-75% of our usage covered by solar. But like you this means only ~25% of our energy usage is subject to inflation. Truth be told we could alter our behavior and reduce consumption from the grid. I plan to add more battery capacity to the solar system - to 20 kWh to improve off-grid utility.

LASTLY, we have a monthly-tested propane-or-gas generator and a 300 gal propane tank as a tertiary power source. We’re pretty well set on energy flexibility for the exactly the same reasons as you. SO kudos to us, eh? ;-)


11 posted on 07/19/2024 9:47:22 AM PDT by Blueflag (To not carry is to choose to be defenseless.)
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To: Tell It Right

This solution given would work out well for some, but how many ordinary people (especially retirees) can do something that would require that much money. As for me it is my situation that I can only afford One car & it is a reliable gasoline powered vehicle. I can’t say if an EV would be any cheaper to run as this car is good on gas and highway capable too. I have no idea how much charging costs for an EV would be for similar use. Doesn’t matter as I can’t afford an EV & a used one would be a fool’s errand in my opinion.


20 posted on 07/20/2024 10:41:27 AM PDT by oldtech
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