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To: ransomnote
Oh my, another excellent example of trying to scare people with half truths and outright lies.

No one has got bird flu from cooking or eating cooked chicken. No one has got the virus from eggs. No one has got the virus from milk or dairy products. No one has got the virus from eating beef. The virus was isolated in 1959 but there were no known human cases until 1997.

Heat kills viruses. Scientists and the majority of non-scientists have known this forever. Most of us avoid eating raw animal products, so no surprise here.

The first cases in 1997 occurred in Hong Kong. Interestingly, a month before Hong Kong was handed over to China by the British.

Nice attempt to spin a conspiracy here. The fact that H5N1 was first identified in 1996 (not 1997), soon before Hong Kong was handed over to the PRC means nothing. Independent events frequently happen at the same time. This is why we have the saying, "Correlation does not mean causation."

So what is the bird flu and why are they repeatedly trying to start a “pandemic” with it? To answer these questions, on Friday, Dr. Meryl Nass gave a presentation on 27 years of bird flu narratives and vaccines.

Who is this "they"? And how do "they" start a pandemic?

Pandemics have afflicted humans since before we even had recorded history. They are completely natural events. Why does a small minority of people have such a hard time accepting that deadly events like pandemics just happen?

As far as the pandemic potential of H5N1 goes, it is something that the infectious disease research community has been monitoring for a long time. We know that the 1917-1919 pandemic (H1N1) virus circulated in animals for several years before it developed the capability of sustained human to human transmission. Right now, the H5N1 seems to be taking a similar path. But, the characteristics of H5N1 that make it so deadly also inhibit it from being spread easily from person to person. What will the effect be if it becomes capable of sustained human to human transmission?

We don't know.

And that is why right now, the scientific community is watching carefully. And that is why many governments around the world have been investing in development of bird flu vaccines. Because if H5N1 becomes adapted to humans and it retains even a fraction of its deadliness, we will need those vaccines.

12 posted on 07/09/2024 11:05:13 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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Oh my, another excellent example of trying to scare people with half truths and outright lies.

No one has got bird flu from cooking or eating cooked chicken. No one has got the virus from eggs. No one has got the virus from milk or dairy products. No one has got the virus from eating beef. The virus was isolated in 1959 but there were no known human cases until 1997.

Heat kills viruses. Scientists and the majority of non-scientists have known this forever. Most of us avoid eating raw animal products, so no surprise here.

ransomnote: Do you even read what you write? 'Scientists' are culling millions of chickens - none of which were intended to be eaten raw. In fact, our food supply is being culled for this reason. So you state the obvious, that heat kills viruses, while ignoring the more-than-obvious, that 'scientists' are still killing chickens for the virus. Did you even give it 2 seconds of contemplation before just spewing a 'tsk tsk tsk' response? No? I didn't think so.

The first cases in 1997 occurred in Hong Kong. Interestingly, a month before Hong Kong was handed over to China by the British.

Nice attempt to spin a conspiracy here. The fact that H5N1 was first identified in 1996 (not 1997), soon before Hong Kong was handed over to the PRC means nothing. Independent events frequently happen at the same time. This is why we have the saying, "Correlation does not mean causation."

ransomnote: It looks like you don't read too well, either. She said 'interesting.' She didn't say 'interesting = causation'.

So what is the bird flu and why are they repeatedly trying to start a “pandemic” with it? To answer these questions, on Friday, Dr. Meryl Nass gave a presentation on 27 years of bird flu narratives and vaccines.

Who is this "they"? And how do "they" start a pandemic?

ransomnote: I guess you missed the Covid Plandemic entirely. I don't have time to bring you up to speed...

Pandemics have afflicted humans since before we even had recorded history. They are completely natural events. Why does a small minority of people have such a hard time accepting that deadly events like pandemics just happen?

ransomnote: Okay now you're writing like you work for Fauci. It's bad enough you're an apologist for the CDC and Fauci, but here you are protecting the players in the next Plandemic - 2.0.

As far as the pandemic potential of H5N1 goes, it is something that the infectious disease research community has been monitoring for a long time. We know that the 1917-1919 pandemic (H1N1) virus circulated in animals for several years before it developed the capability of sustained human to human transmission. Right now, the H5N1 seems to be taking a similar path. But, the characteristics of H5N1 that make it so deadly also inhibit it from being spread easily from person to person. What will the effect be if it becomes capable of sustained human to human transmission?

We don't know.

And that is why right now, the scientific community is watching carefully.

ransomnote: No they aren't watching 'carefully.' They don't do anything carefully. If you were paying attention to their epic, continuous failures throughout the Covid Plandemic, you'd know that.

And that is why many governments around the world have been investing in development of bird flu vaccines. Because if H5N1 becomes adapted to humans and it retains even a fraction of its deadliness, we will need those vaccines.

ransomnote: They failed outright with lies, distortions and toxic solutions before, so I'm not looking forward to their toxic 'help' going forward.

Say, did you see all the 'lessons learned' accountability information they shared, reviewing their performance throughout the Plandemic and inviting public comment? No? Neither did I. They are pretending they performed well and we should trust them. They lie. They are doubling down, pretending to be faultless no matter how many people suffer(ed) because of their direct actions, indirect actions and silence. They lost their credibility within weeks of Plandemic 1.0 and they can't propagandize their way back into being credible, even with your tireless 'help'.

Presentation on Bird Flu (downloadable PDF), exDemMom wrote:
 

 


13 posted on 07/10/2024 12:20:56 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: exDemMom

May want to slow your roll, your track record not so good.


17 posted on 07/10/2024 6:30:43 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: exDemMom

Thank you for being one of the lone voices of reason and science on these threads.


22 posted on 07/10/2024 6:50:59 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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