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ChatGPT Biden vs Trump Election Odds
ChatGPT ^ | 07.01.2024 | ChatGPT/dware

Posted on 07/01/2024 10:08:20 AM PDT by dware

Biden vs Trump 2024 Election Odds

Based on a comprehensive scan of today's news from at least 25 different sources, including liberal, mainstream, and conservative outlets, here is the current outlook on the potential outcome of a hypothetical 2024 presidential election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump:

Current Odds and Predictions

Donald Trump

Joe Biden

Summary of Key Polls and Analysis

Factors Influencing the Election

Sources Used

In conclusion, the 2024 presidential race between Joe Biden and Donald Trump is currently very competitive, with a slight edge for Trump based on the latest betting odds and polling data. The political landscape remains fluid, and the dynamics could change as the election approaches.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Hobbies; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2024; ai; biden; trump
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To: dware

Current AI is like a prisoner of war.

If you torture it long enough you might get a decent answer.

;-)


21 posted on 07/01/2024 10:34:12 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: dware

Did you ask it why is returned only 6 sites as sources?


22 posted on 07/01/2024 10:38:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: dware

Thx. That helps.


23 posted on 07/01/2024 10:38:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: politicket
ChatGPT is about the worst tool you can use for current analysis. It’s no better than a basic search engine at that point, since it doesn’t have that data in its LLM.

That is also my impression. ChatGPT's training ended in 2023, though it can still scan the web for answers (which it seems to have done in this case).

24 posted on 07/01/2024 10:40:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: Freest Republican

It did use several gambling links, although none official, but this wasn’t based on that. This was based solely on current headlines. Only reason it scanned odds sites is because I asked for odds.


25 posted on 07/01/2024 10:48:55 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware
I posed that same question to Perplexity.ai and it responded that it couldn't speculate about the statistical odds of victory by either candidate because its training ended in 2023.

My experience with AI is that you have to give it very precise instructions and, in this case of predicting victory of an election, provide the data on which you expected such odds to be drawn.

26 posted on 07/01/2024 10:49:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: dware

Agree on all counts. (I work heavily in the AI space.)


27 posted on 07/01/2024 10:50:13 AM PDT by piytar (Remember Ashli Babbitt and Rosanne Boyland!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Based on the work done so far, ChatGPT is like a brilliant but naive assistant (with a post-graduate degree in the quantitative side of business/economics).

Naturally, the questions/prompts to ChatGPT have to be very precise.

Agreed. It's far from perfect, but it is, in fact, a strong tool if you know what you're doing.

28 posted on 07/01/2024 10:50:13 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware
It’s far better than Google, in my opinion, and has been extremely fun to learn and operate.

Yes, it is far better than Google for certain things and it's great that you're experimenting with it.

Just remember - it doesn't know about any current data since April of 2023.

29 posted on 07/01/2024 10:53:10 AM PDT by politicket
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To: RoosterRedux
Did you ask it why is returned only 6 sites as sources?

I didn't. Seems I always have issues with that, or when negatives are in the mix, particularly in the "art" generators. I was working on something that required an image of a burnt match recently extinguished with smoke curls arising from the tip. I got the burnt match and a great smoke tendril, exactly what I wanted, but the match was lit. No matter how I posed the question, or told it to remove the flame, it didn't. One of the quirks of it all.

30 posted on 07/01/2024 10:53:31 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware; Lazamataz

Laz, you might find this thread of interest.


31 posted on 07/01/2024 10:54:35 AM PDT by piytar (Remember Ashli Babbitt and Rosanne Boyland!)
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To: dware
I think your question is waaaay too advanced for AI at this point. I find that it can do the work of a young paraprofessional (even with an advanced degree), but to expect that it can do the work of an experienced professional...well, that won't work (yet).

If you ask it to design a rocket, airplane, car, house, or ship, it will provide a vague answer.

But if you tell it that you are designing a rocket, etc., for a specific task and need for it to have certain capabilities and design characteristics and want to know if ChatGPT can help you design it, I think the answer will be yes.

32 posted on 07/01/2024 11:01:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: politicket
Just remember - it doesn't know about any current data since April of 2023.

It does now have the capacity to scan current data, based on an inquiry, as I have done with this and several other threads I've posted. Even had it scan recent posts & replies on FR to get the overall climate of sentiment on several issues based solely on posts and replies. Very fascinating stuff. For example:

Search https://www.freerepublic.com for posts & replies by user politicket. Summarize posts and replies in the last 24 hours. Include URLs.

User Activity Summary for politicket on Free Republic

Housing Market in Denver

Politicket commented on the rising property taxes and car registration fees in Denver, mentioning that many people can no longer afford their payments due to increased property tax assessments, which added $500 or more to monthly payments. Read more

Joe Biden's Political Situation

They discussed the potential for Joe Biden to step down and the implications of his actions. Politicket suggested that if Biden doesn't comply with party directions, the media might target Hunter Biden more aggressively. Read more

Audacy's Bankruptcy

Politicket participated in a conversation about Audacy, the largest U.S. radio company, filing for bankruptcy protection. They noted the company's substantial investment in promoting its app and the financial challenges faced by terrestrial radio stations. Read more

Synchrony Bank's Security Measures

Politicket expressed concerns about Synchrony Bank's use of facial biometrics for security, describing it as invasive and unnecessary. They shared their frustration over the bank freezing a credit card with a $700 balance due to supposed fraud and the requirement for biometric data to unlock it. Read more

General Market Observations

In a discussion on stock market dynamics, politicket highlighted the manipulation by big investors through stock buybacks and the general downturn in global economies, advising caution to other investors. Read more

Political Candidates and Elections

They commented on a political candidate's attempt to switch districts, suggesting the candidate should focus on personal matters rather than seeking power. Politicket emphasized the need for better moral character among candidates in the new district. Read more

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Not a perfect return, but a summation. It clearly didn't stick to the last 24 hours, as the Denver article was back in May, but it did find it and include it. So the potential for data collection is strong, really. And, it also has to do with how the question is posed.

33 posted on 07/01/2024 11:02:08 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware

Unless ChatGPT takes into consideration the democrats’ penchant for election fraud, and election theft... the odds are all garbage.


34 posted on 07/01/2024 11:02:58 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: dware
I think that if you asked ChatGPT to help you design a statistical model for predicting which candidate might win given certain kinds of data, I think it might be very helpful.

In fact, I'll ask it and see what it says.;-)

35 posted on 07/01/2024 11:03:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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To: RoosterRedux
I find that it can do the work of a young paraprofessional (even with an advanced degree), but to expect that it can do the work of an experienced professional...well, that won't work (yet).

Completely agree. I do believe AI is already and will in the future greatly alter the entire world of search engines and thusly, SEO, SEM and so much more. It has its uses and can be an excellent tool for data collection and other items. The multi-appendages of the current AI "art" generators are still quite unsettling.

36 posted on 07/01/2024 11:04:29 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware

My point is that you asked it for odds that are all but meaningless. even if they were the current odds at those places.

Also, some of the math is inaccurate.

ie

“Biden’s odds are listed around +156 to +300, translating to a 36% to 45% chance”

+300 is 3/1 or 1 in 4 or 25%. +156 is 36%.

“odds ranging from -133 to -175, suggesting a 55% to 57% chance of winning the election.”

-133 is 57% and -175 is over 63%.


37 posted on 07/01/2024 11:11:32 AM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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To: dware
ChatGPT executes a general search engine for any data post 2023.

The same information could have been found from many engines.

The ability to work with data for predictive or generative AI is limited to pre-April 2023 when using the latest 4o OpenAI LLM.

38 posted on 07/01/2024 11:14:10 AM PDT by politicket
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To: politicket
The same information could have been found from many engines.

Right, but with ChatGPT, I can have the info formatted in a number of ways, including having it dropped into a downloadable spreadsheet, PDF or Word doc, Power Point Presentation or even an entire website in less than 5 minutes.

So far, search engines can't do that part. I do believe as I said previously that AI is going to vastly impact the entire world of search, SEO, SEM and so much more.

39 posted on 07/01/2024 11:20:43 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware
I just asked ChatGPT about helping me (us) with a model and here's its response (it's frikken amazing BTW). I even asked it to format its Python code in html so I can show it to you:
Me:
Can you help me design a statistical model for predicting which candidate might win in a U.S. presidential election given certain kinds of quantitative and quantitative data?

ChatGPT

Certainly! Designing a statistical model to predict the outcome of a U.S. presidential election involves several steps, including selecting the right data, choosing a modeling approach, and validating the model. Here's a general outline of how you can approach this task:

1. Define the Objective

Your primary goal is to predict the winner of the U.S. presidential election based on historical and current data.<

2. Collect Data Gather relevant quantitative and qualitative data. Key variables might include:

Quantitative Data:

Polling data (e.g., approval ratings, head-to-head matchups) Economic indicators (e.g., unemployment rate, GDP growth, inflation)

Historical voting patterns (e.g., past election results by state)

Demographic data (e.g., age, race, income distribution)

Qualitative Data:

Political endorsements

Major political events and their impacts (e.g., debates, scandals)

Public sentiment (e.g., social media sentiment analysis)

3. Preprocess the Data

Clean and preprocess the data to ensure it is suitable for modeling:

Handle missing data

Normalize or standardize numerical features

Encode categorical variables (e.g., party affiliation)

Aggregate data to the appropriate level (e.g., state-level or national-level)

4. Feature Selection

Identify the most relevant features that have predictive power for the election outcome. Feature selection techniques like correlation analysis, mutual information, or principal component analysis (PCA) can be useful.

5. Choose a Modeling Approach

Several modeling techniques can be applied, including:

Logistic Regression: Suitable for binary classification problems (e.g., win/loss prediction).

Random Forest: A robust ensemble method that can handle both quantitative and qualitative data.

Support Vector Machine (SVM): Effective for high-dimensional spaces.

Neural Networks: Useful for capturing complex patterns in the data.

6. Train the Model

Split the data into training and testing sets to evaluate the model's performance. Use cross-validation to ensure the model generalizes well to unseen data.

7. Evaluate the Model

Evaluate the model using appropriate metrics:

Accuracy: Percentage of correctly predicted outcomes.

Precision, Recall, and F1-Score: For evaluating classification performance.

ROC Curve and AUC: For assessing the model's ability to distinguish between classes.

8. Validate the Model

Validate the model on out-of-sample data to check for overfitting and ensure robustness.

9. Make Predictions

Once validated, use the model to make predictions on new data.

Example Workflow in Python

Here’s a simplified example using Python and a logistic regression model:

Election Prediction Model

# Import libraries
import pandas as pd
from sklearn.model_selection import train_test_split
from sklearn.preprocessing import StandardScaler
from sklearn.linear_model import LogisticRegression
from sklearn.metrics import accuracy_score, roc_auc_score, confusion_matrix

# Load data
data = pd.read_csv('election_data.csv')

# Preprocess data
X = data.drop(columns=['outcome'])
y = data['outcome']
X_train, X_test, y_train, y_test = train_test_split(X, y, test_size=0.2, random_state=42)

# Standardize features
scaler = StandardScaler()
X_train = scaler.fit_transform(X_train)
X_test = scaler.transform(X_test)

# Train model
model = LogisticRegression()
model.fit(X_train, y_train)

# Make predictions
y_pred = model.predict(X_test)
y_pred_prob = model.predict_proba(X_test)[:, 1]

# Evaluate model
accuracy = accuracy_score(y_test, y_pred)
roc_auc = roc_auc_score(y_test, y_pred_prob)
conf_matrix = confusion_matrix(y_test, y_pred)

print(f'Accuracy: {accuracy}')
print(f'ROC AUC: {roc_auc}')
print(f'Confusion Matrix: \n{conf_matrix}')
    

40 posted on 07/01/2024 11:21:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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