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To: Widget Jr
"Russian supporters keep making this claim, and never back it up with real evidence. Russia released an intercepted phone call of Victoria Nuland in 2014. After Russia invaded Ukraine, this is the only "evidence", really a convenient excuse, to claim a US/CIA backed coup."

Look at the maps of NATO moving eastaover time and try to make that claim....

27 posted on 06/18/2024 5:45:33 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck
No one forced those countries to join NATO. Russia was the reason why those countries wanted to join NATO. NATO members are free to leave if they choose, such as when France left NATO in 1966.

Russian territorial expansion is by invasion or coercion, not voluntary democratic process. Chechnya and Georgia are not free to leave. IF Putin has his way, neither will Ukraine.

To the nations on the receiving end of Putin's December 2021 ultimatum, he made it clear wants the USSR back.

32 posted on 06/18/2024 6:23:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 🛇 CCCP 2.0 🛇)
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To: wildcard_redneck

We’re defending 90% of earth via treaty or not.

NATO encroachment is a myth as whether it is happening or not doesn’t matter in the slightest. We;re still defending XY and Z whether a treaty or not exists.

Go look at oil prices hitting $120/bbl in 2013 before his invasion in 2014 and going up 50% under Biden in 2021 before invading in 2022 and make the NATO encroachment claim.


52 posted on 06/18/2024 8:55:04 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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