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Where Did Russia's Black Sea Fleet Go?
Newsweek ^ | 6/7/2024 | David Brennan

Posted on 06/08/2024 6:50:02 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: PIF
"www.oryxspioenkop.com shut down

Still up - your lies never seem to end. Without FR to spew personal attacks on, what else do you do with your miserable life?"

That is not point you lying liar, Oryx shut down updates because its propaganda was no longer supportable due to facts on the ground. You can still reach the site bit the last lying post was September 21, 2023.

Wasn't September of 2023 when "The Great Spring Summer Fall Offensive" was finally acknowledged to be a failure and a waste of men?

The very source of Speedy's daily propaganda post had to stop propagandizing. They probably only left the site up because they are lazy or nostalgic.

81 posted on 06/08/2024 11:04:29 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: marcusmaximus

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82 posted on 06/08/2024 11:26:32 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Kazan
The Russian fleet is headed to the Caribbean!

I'll be shocked if they can actually make it across the Atlantic.

83 posted on 06/08/2024 11:31:34 AM PDT by Terabitten (Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor...)
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To: Kazan

He was busy raping Russian POWs.


84 posted on 06/08/2024 11:48:50 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: wildcard_redneck

Sad. But nice try, they are still up dating destroyed, damaged, captured, abandoned across all categories.

I guess your desperation drives you to make these silly and easily checkable claims.


85 posted on 06/08/2024 11:58:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: MeganC

How much do you know about that League of Nations era treaty? Moscow has objected to it strongly since 1940s. Would Turkey risk a firefight over it? USA is not a signatory and IInited Nations has not successfully engaged. It is an old piece of paper. There are many things not being honored by world players, USSR was a signatory but it no longer exists as a country. Maybe Russia would feel bound, maybe not. That is a real risk and danger created by this Biden proxy war, among many.


86 posted on 06/08/2024 12:17:02 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle

Russia can’t handle Ukraine and Turkey alone punches harder than Ukraine can. Not to mention Russia forcing the Bospourus would be an Article V event for NATO.

Do you really think your Russian friends are so stupid as to start a war just because they wanna go on a cruise to Cuba?


88 posted on 06/08/2024 12:30:12 PM PDT by MeganC (❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)
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To: Williams
“Despite having no conventional navy of note, Ukraine has scored repeated successes against the Russian fleet at sea.”

That right there makes you wonder about the role of navies.


Not really. Naval operations Ina contested sea are expected to be difficult. Not to mention Russia's missile/drone detection/defense is not especially good.
89 posted on 06/08/2024 1:14:26 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: MeganC

There was nothing in the pre 2022 Wiki about bragging.


90 posted on 06/08/2024 2:16:21 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: Terabitten
I'll be shocked if they can actually make it across the Atlantic.

How much do you want to bet they will make it?

91 posted on 06/08/2024 4:44:09 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MeganC

Uh - Trolling Bigtime today aren’t you? This is what you authoritarians do - - From your profile, QUOTE:

HOW COLLECTIVISTS USE THE DIAMOND TACTIC TO SWAY PUBLIC MEETINGS AND HOW TO THWART THEM

Posted on 1/16/2011, 8:42:35 AM by combat_boots

In the 1960s, I came across a small training manual distributed by the Communist Party that showed how a small group of people – as few as four – could dominate a much larger group and sway the outcome of any action taken by that group. It was called the Diamond Technique. The principle is based on the fact that people in groups tend to be effected by mass psychology. They derive comfort and security from being aligned with the majority, especially if controversy or conflict is involved. Even if they do not like what the majority is doing, if they believe they are in the minority, they tend to remain silent and resigned to the fact that the majority should rule. This being the case, the Diamond Techniques is designed to convince the group that as few as four people represent the majority.


92 posted on 06/08/2024 8:56:58 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: marcusmaximus
https://www.newsweek.com/satellite-photo-black-sea-fleet-russia-novorossiysk-crimea-sevastopol-1891811

Satellite Photo Shows Russian Black Sea Fleet Upgrades

Published Apr 18, 2024 at 11:26 AM EDT
Updated Apr 18, 2024 at 6:43 PM EDT

By Ellie Cook Security & Defense Reporter

[excerpt]

The Kremlin has relocated some of its Black Sea assets from the peninsula further east to its Novorossiysk base, in Russia's Krasnodar region further from Ukraine's coastline.

Russia is also thought to be establishing another Black Sea base in Abkhazia, a breakaway region internationally recognized as part of Georgia. This would move Russia's resources in the Black Sea even further away from Ukraine's reach.

https://www.businessinsider.com/author/rebecca-rommen

Ukraine bombs the port where Russia's Black Sea fleet moved to after Crimea got too risky for its warships, reports say

Rebecca Rommen
Business Insider>br> May 19, 2024, 8:17 AM CDT

[excerpt]

The Russian port of Novorossiysk, which has become an important base for the Black Sea Fleet after repeated attacks on its traditional HQ in Crimea, has been targeted by Ukrainian drones.

This attacks follows previous reports by the UK Ministry of Defence indicating that Russia has been bolstering defenses at the Novorossiysk port to protect its Black Sea Fleet from potential Ukrainian attacks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-maritime-drones-make-waves-with-precision-strike-on-russian-tugboat-in-black-sea/ar-BB1nKsXx?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[excerpt]

Ukraine's Maritime Drones Make Waves with Precision Strike on Russian Tugboat in Black Sea

Story by Isaac Jones • 1d •

The operation, occurring in the waters of Lake Panske—an area adjoined to the Black Sea—marked the latest in Ukraine’s strategic use of drones against Russian maritime assets. Such vessels, though not frontline combat ships, serve critical logistical and support roles, indicating Ukraine’s nuanced understanding of disrupting enemy supply lines.

If they had not said it, I never would have known that Russian tug boats are not front line combat ships.

Ukraine, making Lake Panske safer, one 1960's tugboat at a time.


93 posted on 06/08/2024 10:11:58 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: wildcard_redneck

www.oryxspioenkop.com shut down finally? The first time I saw it, it was so obviously teenage cultivated propaganda that I laughed that any minimalist brain would take it seriously. So sad, really.


94 posted on 06/09/2024 3:28:56 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: PIF

Oh you’re calling people names. How cute. That will persuade everyone to want to hear more from your potty mouth. Keep it up.


95 posted on 06/09/2024 3:31:47 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: MeganC

Russian landing ship just promoted to submarine in the Sea of Azov.


96 posted on 06/09/2024 4:07:55 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: PIF

Ukraine just sunk a Russian landing ship that fled Novorossiysk for Sea of Azov.


97 posted on 06/09/2024 4:10:45 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: wildcard_redneck

You just lost another landing ship. Lol!


98 posted on 06/09/2024 4:11:37 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: FlyingEagle

One of the commonalities of Putin supporters seems to be an absence of logic.

Your comment to me upholds this stereotype.


99 posted on 06/09/2024 7:12:32 AM PDT by MeganC (❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)
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To: marcusmaximus

LOL!!!


100 posted on 06/09/2024 7:13:35 AM PDT by MeganC (❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)
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