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To: MeganC
Shoigu was counting on the Ukrainian forces folding and instead they fought back.

They did almost take Kyiv. But their logistics failed them. I think they wouldn't have held on to the city for long. They did not have enough troops. They went in with only 200,000 troops.

12 posted on 05/27/2024 9:57:36 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s not accurate

Almost took Kiev?

Yet left the power on?

They thought they had a deal

They were wrong

We nixed it

And here we are

Probably similar deal if trumps elected

All that dead for nothing


18 posted on 05/27/2024 11:01:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind we're enduring…Alina Habba is fine as grits I'd drink her bathwater)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“””””They did almost take Kyiv. But their logistics failed them. I think they wouldn’t have held on to the city for long. They did not have enough troops. They went in with only 200,000 troops.”””””

The take at the beginning was that the Russians got their intelligence wrong and thought they could cut off the head and then the people would welcome them, that is why high ranking Russians already had people shopping for the best residences in Kyiv.

Perhaps the worst Russian error at the beginning was thinking their 200,000 new, post Soviet, modernized, best equipped elite troops were a well oiled machine that would shock the world with American like capabilities, then that illusion all started crumbling, even things as basic as truck tires revealed that the new Russian army greatly resembled the old Soviet army where countless bodies replace finesse and expertise.


23 posted on 05/27/2024 12:28:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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