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Crimea Air Base on Fire After Second Night of Ukraine Strikes
Newsweek ^ | 5/16/2024 | Ellie Cook

Posted on 05/16/2024 3:33:16 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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2 MiG-31 aircraft, a S-400 air defense system and a warehouse of fuel and lubricants were destroyed at the Belbek military airfield. 2 Russian servicemen were killed, 13 were injured, — Astra.
1 posted on 05/16/2024 3:33:16 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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“It’s getting harder and harder to pretend the war in Ukraine, now in its third year, is about “defending democracy,” as our political elites in Washington insist. This is especially true when Secretary of State Antony Blinken shows up in Ukraine to deliver billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund the war, proclaims that Ukraine’s scheduled presidential elections this spring are canceled until “conditions allow” (Ukraine has not held elections since 2019), and then jaunts off to a popular Kyiv nightclub to play a boomerish cover of Neil Young’s “Rockin’ in the Free World.” That actually happened this week.” ~Jason Walsh

https://thefederalist.com/2024/05/16/whatever-u-s-elites-are-defending-in-ukraine-it-isnt-democracy/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=whatever-u-s-elites-are-defending-in-ukraine-it-isnt-democracy


2 posted on 05/16/2024 3:38:32 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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That actually happened this week.” ~Jason Walsh

Jason Walsh is an idiot. At the same time Russia launched a huge invasion of Ukraine in a new front, still bombarding across all of Ukraine with missiles and suicide drones, with millions of Ukrainians in other countries as refugees, dense Walsh is wondering why Ukraine cannot hold presidential elections across the whole country.

3 posted on 05/16/2024 3:50:35 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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"According to the Constitution, Ukraine may not hold parliamentary elections until martial law is lifted and for six months thereafter. Martial law has been in effect since February 24, 2022, when Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine."
4 posted on 05/16/2024 3:53:17 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual. )
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Hitting targets outside your country while your forces keep losing ground inside your country is not a winning strategy.


5 posted on 05/16/2024 3:55:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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According to the Constitution, Ukraine may not hold parliamentary elections until martial law is lifted and for six months thereafter.

I've read Ukraine's constitution. Show me where it says that. Give me the article number.

CONSTITUTION OF UKRAINE
https://rm.coe.int/constitution-of-ukraine/168071f58b

6 posted on 05/16/2024 4:02:48 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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Article 83 of the Ukrainian Constitution states that if the term of the Verkhovna Rada expires under martial law, it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law. Article 19 of Ukraine’s martial law legislation specifically forbids conducting national elections. Thus, for Ukraine to conduct elections while under martial law would be a violation of legal norms that predate Zelensky and the full-scale Russian invasion.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/ukraine-democracy-wartime-elections-russia-zelensky/

https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/389-19#Text

7 posted on 05/16/2024 4:23:18 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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“Martial law has been in effect since February 24, 2022”

Sounds like Democrats, “democracy,” eh!


8 posted on 05/16/2024 4:27:06 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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The real problem with holding presidential elections in Ukraine right now is that Ukrainians might vote to end the war.


9 posted on 05/16/2024 4:33:18 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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The real problem with holding presidential elections in Ukraine right now is that Ukrainians might vote to end the war.

Almost 70% of Ukrainians think that President Volodymyr Zelensky should remain in office for the duration of martial law, and elections should be postponed until it is lifted, according to a survey released on Feb. 20 by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology

10 posted on 05/16/2024 4:44:09 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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Article 83 of the Ukrainian Constitution states that if the term of the Verkhovna Rada expires under martial law, it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law.

Correct, but Article 83 dictates legislative authority and when the legislature is in session. It does not apply to Ukraine's executive branch, or president. The election of Ukraine's president and the president's authorities are covered in Articles 102-112, and that part of extending a president's power through martial law is nowhere to be seen in Ukraine's constitution. It was deliberately left out of Ukraine's constitution to prevent a president from declaring martial law in order to cancel elections.

Here is Article 83 in full:

Article 83

Regular sessions of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine commence on the first Tuesday of February and on the first Tuesday of September each year.

Special sessions of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, with the stipulation of their agenda, are convoked by the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, on the demand of no fewer National Deputies of Ukraine than one-third of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, or on the demand of the President of Ukraine.

In the event of the introduction of martial law or of a state of emergency in Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine assembles within a period of two days without convocation.

In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

11 posted on 05/16/2024 4:52:41 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Erik Latranyi

It is a helpful strategy if one of your enemies principal tactical weapons is its air force. Attacking their nearby bases and aircraft is a necessity.


12 posted on 05/16/2024 4:56:28 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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The UK was under the same sort of regime in WW2.
It was a coalition cabinet under Churchill and no elections were held from 1940-45. The last general election was in 1935. The election due in 1940 was skipped.


13 posted on 05/16/2024 5:04:01 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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“Almost 70% of Ukrainians think that President Volodymyr Zelensky should remain in office”

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IF that was true, there would be elections. It is a lie, so there isn’t.


14 posted on 05/16/2024 5:20:28 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Article 83, last section.

"In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

15 posted on 05/16/2024 5:38:22 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual. )
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IF that was true, there would be elections. It is a lie, so there isn’t.

Some people are dense. Today's headlines from Ukraine:

Ukraine faces countrywide power outages as electricity deficit worsens

One civilian killed and 4 more injured in Russian airstrike on Kherson Oblast – photos

Russians strike Donetsk Oblast, injuring six miners

Battles rage in Ukraine as Russian forces advance in Kharkiv region

16 posted on 05/16/2024 5:46:45 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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Correct, but Article 83 dictates legislative authority and when the legislature is in session. It does not apply to Ukraine's executive branch, or president.

You're conveniently ignoring the rest of my post: Article 19 of Ukraine’s martial law legislation specifically forbids conducting national elections. The presidency is a national election.

You have to read Ukraine's martial law legislation.

https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/389-19#Text

17 posted on 05/16/2024 5:53:25 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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Ukrainians even if they voted to end the war and all military laid down their weapons and went home could not stop the war. Russia would still invade the Country. Many leaders and military leaders would be killed. Ukraine would become a slave state of Russia. Russia would take all of Ukraines wealth and then proceed to attack another country.


18 posted on 05/16/2024 8:25:04 AM PDT by POGO163
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Wouldn’t surpprise me if it happened, here, this fall.


19 posted on 05/16/2024 9:22:59 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual. )
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“Some people are dense. Today’s headlines from Ukraine:

Ukraine faces countrywide power outages as electricity deficit worsens

One civilian killed and 4 more injured in Russian airstrike on Kherson Oblast – photos

Russians strike Donetsk Oblast, injuring six miners

Battles rage in Ukraine as Russian forces advance in Kharkiv region”

______________________________________________

Multiple incidents of gun violence in Chicago over the long weekend resulted in at least 33 shot, at least 4 people fatally. This included a deadly mass shooting inside the Poppy’s Chat Room cafe, which resulted in one woman killed, and four other women wounded.

On Friday night, an 11-year old boy was shot in the head in St. Paul, Minnesota, and is in critical condition.
In Cheyenne, Wyoming a neighbor shot and killed a man on Saturday after witnessing a domestic dispute. The shooter resided in the apartment upstairs of the victim.

On Saturday night, a shooting outside a mall in downtown Indianapolis, Indiana left seven children, all under the age of 17, shot and wounded.
At an Easter brunch in a restaurant in Nashville, Tennessee, a shooting resulted in one man shot and killed and several others shot and wounded.

Several people were wounded in a shooting and fight that occurred in northeast Las Vegas, Nevada on Easter evening.
In Omaha, Nebraska, a 14-year old girl was shot and wounded early Sunday morning.

In Phoenix, Arizona, a police officer was shot multiple times on Friday night, responding to an armed robbery.
In Portland, Oregon, multiple people were shot and wounded in at least three separate gun violence incidents throughout the weekend.

In New York City, there were at least six shootings over the long weekend, which resulted in three people killed. On Saturday, a two-year-old was shot and thankfully survived, after being grazed by a bullet in the Bronx.

Guess we need to cancel our elections, eh!

Moronic!


20 posted on 05/16/2024 9:38:46 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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